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Nerdia I’m giving you some bonus points only because for some reason Rob waffled on about butterscotch angel delight this week in Corrie so well you aren’t the most cartoonist villain I have seen this week on tv but you are silly jumping out of those brushes with that needle that was funny I thought cheesy as hell and why didn’t Cash let the guy guarding Tim also to protect Eden? They aren’t very smart in this town are they?

We have recently been reminded, it's been 25 years since Leah first appeared on Home and Away. 2000 is probably one of the biggest years of change, so I thought I'd start a new thread to discuss and appreciate everything that happened in that season. For me, many of the events that occurred marked the end of the era: The revamped theme music and opening credits. The first version not to feature the "action" shots, and instead the floating boxes across the ocean background. The demise of the Bayside Diner and the original Stewart home, and the introducing of the replacement Beachside Diner. Ailsa's death. Sam's exit, after watching him grow up on screen for 9 years. The arrival of the Sutherland family into Summer Bay House, well and truly heralding a new era of H&A. One of, if not the, biggest year for cast turnover. The new arrivals were Nick, Leah, the Sutherland family, Noah, Jude and Brodie. The departures were Jesse, Justine, James, Sam, Joel, Natalie, Tom, Ken, Edward, Peta, Judith and then Ailsa in the finale. Admittedly many of those characters were relatively short-lived, but it was still a rollercoaster year for comings and goings, especially when you consider the show lost hugely popular characters like Marilyn, Travis, Rebecca and Chloe in late 1999 as well. Iconic storylines/moments: Sally's non-wedding and all the returnees it brought. Jesse's exit Shauna being revealed as Ailsa's daughter. Great storyline, but it's a shame we only got a few months of their relationship before Ailsa died. The landside, which used as the cliffhanger when the show went on hiatus for the Sydney Olympics. At the time, it was reportedly the biggest stunt H&A had ever done, but it pales in comparison to some of the ones that occurred in later years, but at the time it was pretty epic and high stakes drama. Edward's Huntington's journey Ken Smith's death Forgettable storylines/low points: The Diner fire - Considering it was one of the most iconic sets from the early years, it's actual demise felt rather underwhelming. Maybe it was too close to the landside or they didn't have the budget for a second big stunt? Natalie's affair and pregnancy. What was the point, when they were just going to reunite and get back together a few months later? Even if they wrote the affair as her exit storyline to later reunite with Joel, the pregnancy wasn't needed at all Fisher's dream sequence - Fisher had a weird dream that he was marrying Judith Joel and Judith's romance - clearly just a fill-in story to give both characters something to do after their families left and while they sat around waiting around for their exits.

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Alf's episode count this week:Two. Now that he's finally found the right end of the stick, Townsend is back to being refreshingly blunt with Cash and pointing out the flaws in his behaviour.He did a better job than Levi, who just seemed to turn up to rant about "Why aren't you doing anything?" without having any real idea what exactly it was he wanted Cash to do.He did have some better points about the way Cash has treated Eden.Even here, Cash has basically fobbed Eden off and expected her to hang around Tim instead of actually taking responsibility for himself, blind to how problematic it all is.Despite her beating herself up, I don't think Eden's indiscretion here is really on a par with how Levi behaved with Mackenzie and Imogen. Still, it's understandable Tim would be upset about it, even if he's hardly a saint and maybe he should have had a think about whether an inappropriate relationship like that was likely to work out. Cash did at least take some overdue responsibility for kicking this hornet's nest and go to apologise to Tim. Given Eden's reluctance to leave the hospital before, it was a bit much that she suddenly decided to go wandering around on her own in the dark: Couldn't she have called Levi or Remi and asked them to pick her up? It's like she wanted to be attacked! Whilst I can understand her concerns, Dana is better off staying out of Harper's business here. It's not like her advice has done much good (she was pretty much convinced this was a fairy tale not too long ago) and if Harper's determined to go down this route, keeping quiet and letting her make her own decision is about all you can do.

I know it's probably been noted before but John's folder with AJP Celebrant in big elaborate gold letters...real subtle, but so him!

I can see why Levi freaked out at Mali but he was totally innocent, he had no clue Abby had just dropped the news she was staying with Mali mainly I think just to wind him up, Levi did apologise to Mali. But as luck or not as it happened has brought the question up that maybe Abby would be safer at the caravan park. The Farm House is out in the sticks. Abby, unlike a lot of characters do and hide bad news, did show Mali the text Nerida sent, took it to Levi to get his view on it. The cops do owe Abby protection seeing as she was willing to wear a wire to catch Nerida out. Eden is somewhat safe seeing as she is at the hospital and Tim has a guard. Nerida may be unhinged but would she be that loopy enough to turn up at the hospital again? I think Tane does care for Harper though obviously he isn't in love with her. I know I've said this before but I think it's kinder he doesn't say if it he isn't. Tane had a big do last time and it was beautiful and nothing wrong with it being low key seeing how far along Harper is but you could still have a lovely day with a few more people around. John was lovely with Harper when he saw how upset she was, Harper wasn't really around when Tane and Flick were first together but John said yes they were very passionate but not all love is like that, a new love can be very different but be just as good. Gina was John's main love, but he and Marilyn were very happy. That was a bit of a curve ball the fact Tane and Flick were still legally married despite Tane saying he wasn't her next of kin anymore and him saying she was ex which she wasn't. I did get his point when he said to John it was going to be very awkward asking Cash for Felicity's death certificate as he needs it to show the authorities he's a widower so he can get married again in a couple of months. The last Cash knew and yes he has been tied up in other matters was Tane and Harper had just announced they were a couple. Remi was pushed into a corner by Mac, he feel he owes her as she took them on to play at Salt when she knew nothing about them. I liked the fact he felt it wouldn't be right to perform without Eden but she'd be wary being in the public eye with Nerida on the loose.

Interesting...so with Irene leaving, will there be a bit more in the budget? I wonder what they'll do with that? More away trips..maybe more overseas ones...we got one in 98,201,2011,2014... I'd love if they did another - they were meant to go to NZ with the Parates..but covid..

Agreed. I don't know who brought Jesse back in 2002 or Steven and Marilyn in 1995 but I feel all three worked out really well. Even Sally's brief 2013, she integrated very well with new and old cast. Also, Marilyn and Roo's 2010 returns were also done very well.

Well they got top Billing for 5yrs

Bevan Lee was very good at weaving the old into the new, I admired that. Floss forseeing Aden in the then old Diner for example, and the way Milco was retconned in without rewriting too much history. Bringing back Kirsty and then Fisher to work at the school. But like you say it was a different era, nearly itself 20 years ago.

Exactly. It is very unfortunate that the early years are basically forgotten.

I wonder what the pay is like now? Are the older actors, in particular, still laughing all the way to the bank? They don't get much to do most of the time either.

I can imagine Tom and Debra Pippa lot more then I can Vanessa Pippa and Michael .

That era had a higher turnover of cast with the likes of Emma, Viv, Grant, Ben, Karen, Simon, Haydn and others lasting less than 18 months. They definitely wanted more from Craig and Dannii, so the producers must have been disappointed they had relatively short stints. Craig had already done 3 years on a soap, so he'd have been unlikely to do another 3 when his career was just taking off. As for Richard Norton, he didn't exactly set the world on fire on Neighbours so I don't know what they were expecting from him on H&A.

I think the change in Producer has a fair bit to do with our loss of any throwback characters and such. Lucy Addario has no interest or intention to bring back oldschool Summer Bay, whereas Bevan Lee was a master at it and Coral Drouyn at least showed some respect to it.

I imagine the 3 of them would have been laughing all the way to the bank given how little they all had in terms of storylines in the first half of the 90s. It wasn't until 1995 when Alf and Ailsa got their own storylines and Donald got involved with Marilyn that they were actually at the forefront again.

None of those big name hires went too well, did they? Craig McLachlan didn't hang around for too long either. Even at that, his tenure was broken up by him trying to launch a music career. Richard Norton, also poached from Neighbours, turned out to be a damp squib as well. Neither Viv nor Emma are particularly memorable characters. It's hard to know if they'd have done better if they'd been introduced at a different time.

Yes that makes sense. If you think about it, Michael is a character we learned very little about. They gave him enough backstory to get him going (i.e. the divorce, the kids, the failed business) and then there was little more. Did he ever mention his parents or any siblings, for example? I wonder too if there were ever plans to bring in Kate, his estranged daughter? The writers seemed to forget about her once Michael resumed his relationship with Pippa. I've never been able to believe that the two Pippas are the same person. Even if I sort of managed that, I couldn't see VanPip being with Michael, nor DebPip with Roger. Both actors worked well with their version of Pippa so that was a job well done. Recently, I stumbled across a podcast that Debra and Dennis did with Cameron and Daddo last year https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/does-keeping-the-romance-alive-matter-debra-lawrence/id1463023422?i=1000653111872 Dennis was quick-witted and funny on it. It's a real shame that that side of him never really manifested itself on Home and Away.