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He used Sasha for a quickie but it is okay because he was hurting? He may not have completely cheated on Sasha but he kept banging on about Tamara, which in turn made Sasha more insecure and clingy. You are right that no one is perfect. Casey sure as hell doesn't come close to perfection and neither did Sasha. But by thinking that Sasha should just get over it completely glosses over her personality and nature. She was fiesty and spunky up until she got involved with Stu, who not just physically abused her but mentally hurt her aswell. The way she shifted was quite realistic in that after Stu she was timid but she got through her worrying of dating again. But while she got through that she exhibits a classic sign of an abuse victim. When she takes a liking to a male she subtly shifts her personality and adapts in a way that she feels pleases them. This is to stop a beating that probably won't come again. Which is exactly what Sasha did when she got closer to Casey, to the extent of becoming clingy. And in a way exactly what she has done with Spencer. She is still mostly back to her spunky self but her behaviour with Spencer is shifting again. This is just my opinion on Sasha. Probably completely off the mark but I would rather think that than believe that she will turn into a bunnyboiler version 2 (version 1 being April).

This is just my opinion but I think Sasha forgave Tamara before Casey because it was easier. The fact is that Sasha thought Tamara was just an illusion right up until they were introduced, and then she knew virtually nothing about her except for the fact that there was another female getting closer to her man. She hated Tamara before getting to know her but with Casey she was completely sucked in and then trampled by him and when a girl is treated that way it is hard to forgive. So Sasha may be civil to Casey but I can understand the warning to Maddie because she knows first-hand what happens when you get involved with a mixed-up Braxton. Attached, followed by heartbroken. It is a shame it hasn't been played as a way of showing that Sasha does care about Maddie and not just because of her connection to Spencer. I know you shouldn't double post but I don't know how to edit my first one with a quote. I have to say this though... Are you serious?! Casey sucked her into his first downward spiral and used her as a emotional crutch, knowing full well that from her past behaviour (her relationship with Stu) she would do whatever she could to help & be with him... and then basically became infatuated with another girl he didn't even know was real (Tamara). I know that Sasha did head into crazy territory when it came to Casey but she is a teenage girl with known traits (abuse victims tend to repeat behaviour of adapting their personality to appease the next love). And he treated her like dirt. So in her eyes he is not great. He is decent but not great. And from that POV I can understand her warning Maddie because yet again when he is on a downward spiral he sucks in another female. Only this time the girl is stronger and more confident in herself, unlike Sasha (who still has that behaviour cycle of adapting to appease another male).

Forget bromance ... it took me back to the days where I shipped any male/male pairing, including brothers(ah Wincest, how I miss being able to watch Supernatural ). It was totally a broYay moment and it was awesome! It was great comedy acting from both though and I am glad there was some lighthearted moments to go with the crappy-ness of Heath reverting to idiot mode. I want more comedy Casey and less Woobie!Casey. Bonus points if it involved Kyle! The pineapple! Oh the pineapple

I'm still hoping and praying they unleash Cougar!Irene again because it has been so long (Paris/Irene was awesome!). Plus it means they won't be going the predictable route of depression/loneliness or another cancer scare.

For the first time in a long time (years in fact) I have been feeling the urge to write some fanfiction, with Kyle and Heath as the focus because it would be a humour fic. Which is a first for me as well. The last fic I wrote (and remains unfinished) was about Ric in prison, I think.

You make me want to get creative again and make more icons because these are awesome. Where do you get the screencaps from?

I would love to see her bitch-mode stemmed right back to the fact that she is angry at herself because she fell into the trap of thinking young love conquers all. Just when I find her to be a bitch she has a scene that gives me a glimmer of hope that they know just what they are doing with this character. I love her moments with Alf and John. She has a Gypsy edge to her. Is great with the bitchface but deep down their is an insecure little girl trying to play grown ups. And that is where the fault is. I tend to forget that she is only... 15/16?

Ah, I must have missed that kidnap moment. Geez, Kyle was like the diet coke of evil back then wasn't he?

He didn't kidnap her though, did he? I thought she just stumbled on to Casey and helped him before Kyle came along. I didn't get to see all of the episodes surrounding that though. I think I understood about 5% of that post so I apologise if I'm wrong... but are you trying to tell certain people that the characters aren't real so they are going OTT. And I certainly don't agree with that last sentence about actors not feeling. If all actors felt nothing for the characters they play then every film/tv show would be utter crap. To create a character that people love/hate the actor playing that character has to get under ths skin of who they are playing, which means they have to feel. Hell, isn't that an essential part of those working their arses off at the theatre? They don't have all the flash and scenery to fall back on so use their emotions and feelings to get across to the audience what is going on.

Heh, Alf really was a player back in the day, wasn't he?

It was me who compared Maddy & Kyle but I don't think I explained myself that well. It wasn't actually a comparison of the characters but on attitudes towards the behaviour. My original reply was because someone mentioned Maddy being protective of Spencer so going into bitch mode whenever another female goes near him. I assumed the protection comment was supposed to be a positive observation. Which led me to the Kyle comment. All he did was protect Tamara when all the other Braxton's were busy with other problems but that protective nature has led to quite a few negative comments about that character. Is that a better explanation? Or have I made it worse?

I know nothing about widows pension but depending on the life insurance, the cost of a funeral and other expenses tends to eat away a great chunk of that money. But then we are talking real life and this is happening on a soap, and we all know that financial issues can just be dreamed up for good drama !

I like Ricky but I think that is because of the actress. I do hope Casey tells the truth and Ricky gets sent down for a while because she feels she deserves it. It is refreshing to have a character linked to the Braxton's who believes they should pay for their crimes. And no, I don't think she should have to consider Casey's feelings. It just makes him look like a little bitch if he gets his way on everything (harsh I know but it is how I feel).

Her heart was in the right place treating Spencer like her own personal property and treating Sasha like she was the worst person in the world? No, she was worried she would hurt him again. Being protective isn't wrong. I hate to keep bringing this up but how is Maddy being 'protective' any different from Kyle being 'protective' when it came to Tamara? They were both doing the same thing but two very different opinions on the same behaviour, and for me with Maddy it was more of a case of 'if I can't have Spencer then no one can'. To be honest the only one I feel for is Spencer in this mess (and also Rosie). Maddy was being a jealous cow, Sasha is on the path of loopy love again but Spencer is just trying to live his life after Maddy ditched him. And poor Rosie being used as a link between Sasha & Spencer. And Sasha & Maddy were never real friends and I would call it aquaintances at best. In a way it was friendship linked by Rosie yet again.

Am I right in thinking that Harvey was only supposed to stay for a few weeks/months and was supposed to be bad? Because I am so glad they decided to keep him around. I loved all the scenes between Harvey & John, with him just being there to help. And the character is comedy gold!

It is quite easily done, especially when your partner dies suddenly. Funeral costs can be very damaging to the bank account, along with other expenses and loss of earnings. And even owning businesses doesn't help the situation because it isn't instant cash, so it really doesn't mean anything in the long run. This is a good story for the now, since this is happening a lot in the real world.

I posted a big ramble in the Dex/April thread because I couldn't find this one. But the hospital issue was one of the things I mentioned because it just feels unrealistic. She hasn't even been at Uni for 6 months yet but it is not uncommon to get an early placement for training. Emphasis on the training... yet we have seen her interact and treat patients and she even took charge of Tamara's case in the end. Realistically she would be made to do the scut work, would not be allowed to do half of what she gets away with and would be kept well away from patients she knows. When Brax crashed she would have been made to stand back and watch like other students, yet she was in the thick of it doing compressions. Perhaps it works differently in Aus though.

I think Kyle is gone from Leah's now, which is a shame because the scenes they have had together have been nice to see!

When I was watching last years Channel 5 specials he was the one character that interested me and yet I really didn't remember him and I still don't remember the 1999 stint . But I do agree that he is the type of character that could still work on the show as it is now. Perhaps a more mature Adam but still with the cheeky chappy moments.

I dunno. It has been a long time since Irene has been on her own in that house so it might be interesting to see her cope, whether it could be funny (everyone showing up and not giving her the freedom she thought she would get) or it could be drama (feeling alone can get quite depressing). But then it could just be glossed over and never mentioned... which is the likely scenario.

... Wow, look-a-like alert! Thanks for recommending Tangle. I've had a quick look about the show and it does look like my kind of show and will be interesting to see Lincoln in another role.

I think it is because her mother was going to send her off to boarding school. Don't quote me on that though !

... Is this a bad thing or a good thing? Either way she is still a goddess in my eyes !

Part of me thinks this is because when they first introduced Tamara they hadn't thought out the details so any little tidbits of information you didn't truly believe. And she didn't start out as a character who was staying, did she? But the more I see it the more I really do think they are trying to reboot the character because they failed at making her sympathetic. Even with the violent boyfriend and the crappy family how many of us felt for her? It does feel like a reboot and a chance of aging her up a little bit. Perhaps for the sole purpose of pairing her with Kyle. The fact is we don't know how much was the real Tamara and how much was survival Tam. All we know is that when she suddenly appeared and hit Casey (which was funny and she did the exact same to Kyle before memorywipe) it was like she was twin!Tam and a bitch. It is all a little confusing. It is a shame we had to sit through the Nelson (boyfriends name, right?) storyline pre-memorywipe because yet again what would have been funnier (and more with the times) was if she had woken up in the hospital and asked where her girlfriend was. Would have been better than this bloody triangle !

I haven't got access to the show but may have to find a way. Is it good? You are right about that. He is young and like many on this show he is still learning his craft but I feel that due to the material being given and the fact that it seems to be on repeat all the damn time he has lost the ability to do anything but the crazy wide eyed stuff. But I have to say that yesterday I watched 5775 and that acting ability was back in full force. The way he played the different stages of drunk and hungover were great and a joy to watch, along with all the scenes between the Braxton brothers (& Bianca) in that episode. And completely changing the subject I finally realised who he reminds me of. Anyone seen Skins UK? Series 5 & 6(Gen 3 cast) there is a character called Rich. Once they ditched the hilariously bad long wig the actor looks just like Lincoln. Seriously check out pictures .