Latest UK Episode Discussion (2006-2017 Seasons)

[H&Alover]

John saying to Zac 'Marilyn thinks you are having an affair' was hardly ambiguous! 

Zac is jumping the gun a hell of a lot, he isn't even published yet!!!   I think I know why Zac didn't want Leah to read it, stuff  he didn't wanting her critiquing it, it was because he'd put her past two marriages in it, weren't failed marriages exactly both husbands died, which is her story not his!   As it is going to be a novel wonder if John, Maz and others in the bay will be in it, for instance Charlotte and Hunter? Sam blew his cover when she was talking to them, and yes Sam does fancy Zac, Leah saw it, but she needs to play it clever, don't rant and rave at Zac,  that will only have him telling Sam and she will of course commiserate and be a shoulder for him to, not exactly cry on, but tell him 'there, there, I understand'. He should let her read it so if she feels really strongly changes can be made, making it more subtle.

Ash's facial injuries have healed OK, but the bruising is still there, unusual for H&A most kicking, cuts, stabbing, gun shot wound scars seem to vanish over time.  It seemed to be he still didn't have a plan but as it turned out was irrelevant as Billie persuaded him to go to go to McCarthy, he had it well worked out as how to get Simmo nabbed and keep Kat out of it.  Of course it all went pear shaped when Simmo as you would expect hinted he shouldn't be the one being investigated, something he couldn't have said if his brief had been there. McCarthy was quite right not to send Kat to look over Simmo's place, it needed to be someone not involved in anyway with the garage. Btw when Ash sped off to Simmo's I saw he left the garage wide open, good move that!    Simmo may be clever in some ways but obviously not that clever to let someone else in his gang in on it and share the evidence.  Of course even if Ash does get rid of the photos off the laptop doesn't necessarily mean they can't be retrieved not with the technology they have nowadays, he'd have to destroy it completely.

That was a nice gesture from VJ, lets hope the truth doesn't leak out or Olivia will have the hump with Hunter again!  I'm guessing the vouchers didn't cost a lot VJ hasn't got that much cash to flash.

[TessyBear]

On 1/16/2017 at 2:04 PM, H&Alover said:

Of course Leah can be Zac's friend just as Zac can be Leah's friend

Yes I know. I said that! It's great if within your marriage you can have a base level of friendship: So much the better! But Zac saying "Leah's my friend" completely disproves the point of the conversation they were having surely?? No Zac she's your wife. There's a MASSIVE difference. Like Zac was putting his friendships with Leah, Irene and Marilyn all on the same level when they're really not all on the same level at all. Like Zac doesn't introduce Leah to people by saying "This is my friend Leah". No the word there is "Wife". It's like: Charlie Clausen and Ada Nicodemou: Friends, Zac Maguire and Leah Patterson (bizarrely that's still her name in the credits... weird): Married. Does that make my point clearer?

 

So Ash "succesfully" managed the b&e at Simmo's place. Once a criminal always a criminal right? Whatever. I thought for sure the police would find the photos in the recycling bin when they looked through the laptop. But maybe they wouldn't have taken it that seriously because the super sure as heck wasn't that interested in what Simmo was saying. Hey don't Australia have an Internal Affairs Dept? They'd be the ones to get involved with this sort of an allegation, well given that "No sexual relationship with any known criminals" was built into Kat's terms of return to the police force right? Oh Kat's so bent!!! She told Ash he needed to delete the photos from Simmo's computer. Then she blatantly tried to get Simmo to give her the password!!! KAT!!!!!   It reminds me of the Charlie and Brax sl all of this. Except I liked Charlie a whole lot more than I've ever liked Kat. That's the difference there. With Charlie it wasn't cool either but I can't help it. I can't turn my back on Charlie just because she's doing something really wrong. Anyway I'll move on...

 

So the Zac/Leah/Sam saga continues... I want to say something about yesterday's ep. first: I mean Zac shouldn't have told Sam about Leah's past marriages: BIG NO. But Sam was out of line to bring the subject up with Leah: A complete stranger at their get together. Sam got her facts messed up also didn't she? She mentioned something about "Left at the altar". That was never the case unless there's something I don't know. Vinnie, Dan, Zac: That's how many times Leah's been married right? Sam was really blasé when she was talking about Leah's past marriages anyway right? "I need to try on three marriages to find Mr. Right." I mean what the heck???

Zac needs to wake the heck up I think. Nate was spot on in today's ep! And Sam's offering Zac more wine again. You've finished working Zac: That means quitting time!

It was good that Sam apologised to Leah in today's ep. but she was being a little passive aggressive with it. 

Someone mentioned they think Leah's past marriages might be in the story and that's the real reason why Zac didn't want his lovely wife to read it. Oooohh I think that is a very interesting theory. I never said one that makes me pleased but I think you might be right there. Ugh Zac!  Knowing Sam when Zac divulged that information to Sam she was probably like "Oooohhh let's put it into the story!!" And then Zac just went along with it the sell out.  It's a little like "The Bogan's Tipped Hair" sl. in Neighbours this.

 

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H&A in Aus went on its break 19th December episode 6580, we've just had episode 6540 so, if my maths is right and its not my best subject, we've still got eight weeks to go. Any advance on that?

Woooow!!! Eight weeks. Well thanks for that.  That's a long time!!!  

[Slade]

15 hours ago, H&Alover said:

John saying to Zac 'Marilyn thinks you are having an affair' was hardly ambiguous! 

Um....I was talking about what he said just before that when Zac mentioned having female friends and that he had a moment of madness with Bianca and John said "Do you often have moments of madness with your female friends?".

Really disliking Justin at the moment.  I was glad Raffy blanked him.  Good for her.  Hope she drags the unforgiving part out as long as possible.  His whole attitude when he found out Hope didn't want to see her made me want to punch him.  And then there was his "We are gonna change that" remark.  He really couldn't care less about how Hope being away has affected her.  And I suspect he'll be quite happy for Hope to go to jail so he and his family can have Raffy all to themselves.  He came across as a total bully when he and Phoebe went to see Hope at the police station trying to intimidate her (Kat actually annoyed me when she let them see her without Hope agreeing to it).  And even Phoebe didn't agree with Justin's attitude.  I feel really bad for Hope.  The poor girl is having a miserable time at the moment, she's struggled on remand and to adjust and is obviously very distressed but Justin didn't appear to have any sympathy for her.  I'm not happy about Phoebe being involved as she's basically like a younger version of Marilyn sticking her oar into people's affairs but to be fair in this particular case as Raffy is staying with her she doesn't really have any choice.

Kat's remark to Simmo when she found out he had a girlfriend "She must be desperate" was hilarious.  She's actually not bad considering.  I felt a bit sorry for her when Ash was trying to hide from the cops and he grabbed her and put his hand across her mouth although at least he admitted that he wasn't proud of it afterwards.  Funny how when Ash signed into Simmo's laptop it didn't hide the password characters.  Even though Ash deleted the files it's still actually possible to recover them so might not be over.  And still Simmo has done all of this without getting his lawyer involved.  If he had been smart he would have involved him/her earlier on and they could have gone and retrieved the notebook.  That scene with McCarthy and Kat at the garage.  I mean come on McCarthy shaking Ash's hand.  He must have been suspicious when Kat wanted to talk to Ash.  I don't understand why she couldn't have just waited until she was off duty.

Don't like Sam.  She comes across as smug and quite manipulative.  I didn't think her motives were entirely honorable when she went round to apologise to Leah and I am wondering if she brought the stuff up about Leah's past marriages when they first met at the Diner deliberately to undermine her.  I think Nate was absolutely right to point out to Zac why Leah would have a problem with her.  Good to see him spend time with someone who isn't female.

[H&Alover]

Just read on their profile pages Tori is Tessa and Mason Michael. 

I'm suspicious about Sam as well, Nate isn't wrong either, the look on her face when Zac told her Leah wasn't happy about revealing her history looked sneaky, you could see the cogs turning.  When she first spoke to Leah she did appear to come across as genuine, but then I thought wait a minute she could be playing a clever game here, getting Leah to trust her and think 'she's not too bad after all' therefore making her feel  OK with Zac seeing her again.  Zac isn't seeing it is he, probably thought one drink is OK.  This character Zac mentioned (Tess I think) could that perchance be Charlotte? I think Sam was referring to Leah running off from Zac's surprise proposal at the beach with wedding already planned. 

You're right I didn't think of that about the password characters showing, dramatic licence I guess.  Simmo wasn't as dumb as I thought he would be and didn't have his nickname as his password but he wasn't that dumb either as to give Kat his password.  Doesn't matter a damn really if Simmo is a serial crim they still should take him seriously and yes deleted material can be retrieved.  Ash has never been a violent guy unless he's defending himself of people he cares about, so no wonder he felt bad about threatening Shanee (?).  I do have the feeling we haven't seen the last of her, she's going to be seeing Simmo at some time and will mention her 'visitor'.   Anyone arrested is asked if they want a lawyer/solicitor and they have the choice to refuse so it follows that is what happened with Simmo although we didn't see it.  I did notice McCarthy kept giving Kat funny looks so may have some sort of feeling something isn't right.  She did manage not to look too relieved when nothing turned up on his laptop.

Yes Justin did overstep the mark when yelling at Hope but he couldn't understand why she wouldn't let Raffy see her, she could have handled her looking bad, not seeing her would have made her worry more. I was wondering if there was more to it than her not being able to sleep and snatching the tablets from Nate's bag, maybe an underlying condition no-one knows about. Phoebe did good in the end and at least managed to persuade Hope to let Raffy live with the Morgan's. Was that Kat we saw at the farmhouse when Hope arrived in the police car?  Don't know who persuaded the cops to let it happen but it's made both Hope and Raffy feel better  seeing each other outside the bounds of a police cell or hospital room.

Jeannie, there is definitely something going on with that girl/woman.  She was OK with being flirty and touchy/feely, touching his hand, brushing his arm,  when she was doing it to Brody, but the moment he tried it, she was 'no, back off'   No wonder he was confused. Maybe his going for a full on kiss was not the right move after her peck on the cheek, but she didn't have to shove him over. She invited him for the drink when they first got chatting on the beach remember and he was a bit bumbly. Matt was right and Mason wrong about her fancying him (Brody), though even they were banjaxed.  So she does have a mobile contrary to what she told Evie which suddenly got me thinking could she be another member of The Syndicate like Lara was?  May also explain why she wanted paying in cash.  In other circumstances Evie would have helped but the wrong day. 

Nice little chat between her and Matt (also Leah earlier) about she didn't feel in the mood to celebrate her Birthday.  Tough enough the first anniversary like that when you don't share a birthday but double so when you do, it's always going to be bittersweet. 

[Slade]

It was good of Maddy to wish Evelyn happy birthday.  Nice that they still keep in touch.  I felt a bit sorry for her when we saw the photo of her and Oscar.  I can't imagine how hard it must be for her.  It's bad enough not being able to celebrate but when you realise your twin is not around.....

I guess I can accept that Phoebe had a reason to go to the hospital to see Hope but it annoyed me how Justin invited himself.  He really couldn't give two hoots about her.  The way he pulled Raffy away from Hope when they were saying goodbye was a milder version of when Raffy found the letter detailing her DNA results and she tried to run away and he tried to stop her from leaving.  Although his facial expression didn't show it I bet he's over the moon that Hope will be going to jail and what looks like the foreseeable future.  Raffy is all his and his family's now.  Hope will be a distant memory.

Phoebe wasn't too bad and did actually seem sympathetic towards Hope for a change although Hope could have died so I suppose most people would.  The Hope we saw in that episode was more of the person I wanted to see when I kept giving her the benefit of the doubt.  I just wish she'd been like this earlier on.  And I really felt for her when there were tears in her eyes at the hospital.  I would actually rather Raffy stayed with Phoebe and I think Hope showed that she really does love Raffy.  She realised that she's going down and so told Raffy to make up with Morgan's as she realised she would probably be better off there.  Their goodbye was emotional much like their scene when Hope came home and found Raffy shortly after she knew that they weren't sisters.  I just hope that Hope manages to last inside.  Given what was mentioned when McCarthy and Kat booked her into the local station and that she's had trouble sleeping she is seriously going to struggle.

I'm finding this hot and cold behaviour with Jeannie quite annoying.  Despite what Justin said even if Brody did want to fire her it would have been harsh to do it given that he already offered her the job.  However he shouldn't have offered her the job in the first place.  I said he would struggle to work with her and we can see he has already started to act unprofessionally.  What would he have said if one of the other employees had started eating the merchandise?  Then there was the way she demanded to be paid by cash and he just agreed.  And after that he tried to spoon feed her.  Strictly speaking he should not be letting her even flirt with him.  I can't blame him.  He really likes her and hasn't dated in a while so his behaviour is perfectly understandable.  Jeannie annoyed me the most at the scene near the end of the episode.  She gave signs she was interested, she kissed him on the cheek then when he lent forward she pushed him away.  This despite the fact they had effectively just had a date right before that.  As Matt said I hate teases!

[Red Ranger 1]

So, after that overly dramatic break-up last week, Hunter and Olivia promptly get back together.Except...VJ knows exactly what was needed to cheer Olivia up, while Hunter looks blank?Are they saying VJ knows Olivia better than Hunter?(There was that love triangle between them when she first turned up and given that Olivia's reason for picking Hunter basically seemed to amount to "We're both new in town"...)Not that I want VJ and Billie to split up although I really wasn't happy with Billie's behaviour in this last episode.While John's "argue with everything" advice was dumb, it was frustrating that VJ had to back down over something that was important to him because Billie overreacted (I hate to say it but her behaviour was more than a little manipulative).But actually, VJ seems more bothered about Hunter than Olivia and it really has reached the point where Hunter's so obsessed with making their relationship work that he hasn't really got anything else in his life.I actually don't think Olivia did anything wrong telling Hunter about the pregnancy scare:She was genuinely concerned and it's not as if she even sought Hunter out and told him, he came across her upset and asked her what was going on.But Olivia getting Hunter to help her out when he needed to revise himself was a bit worrying.Unfortunately, as I said last week, the whole thing is undermined by Irene's unrealistic transformation from the couple's head cheerleader to biggest sceptic because plot.She's ignored several valid reasons for keeping Hunter away from Olivia, she pretty much tried to get rid of Tabitha because she was getting in the way of them reuniting and now she thinks they should break up because...they've argued a bit?

Well, she might be having trouble with the mess she's made of her own life, but Billie did a good job keeping Ash on the straight and narrow.His breaking in and deleting the photos is just about justified by the fact Simmo was trying to blame him and Kat for the stolen car ring, but in the process he has to threaten the mostly innocent Shenae.Still, the fact he was obviously haunted by it does move us beyond Braxton territory.Shame that just as the show seemed to be avoiding the "Everyone has an easily guessable password" cliché it came into full force.Nice touch that Ash had to have two goes at spelling Shenae's name but frankly it wouldn't even have been my second choice.Isn't it normally spelt Shanae?Also, Ash didn't seem to empty the recycle bin, so if anyone wants to find the photos they just need to look there...

I guess the show did realise that having two characters called Samantha was confusing, so suddenly the second one's "Sam".I think we all guessed what Zac was up to and I just about understand his reason for not wanting Leah to know about it until it was a guaranteed success, a writer's ego can be a fragile thing.(Best exchange of the week:Leah:"I wouldn't criticise him, I'm his wife!"John:"Those two things aren't mutually exclusive.")Nice to see Zac show some loyalty to Leah, even if he did then end up having wine with "Sam".

I do feel sorry for Hope and I'm glad she was all right.It is slightly weird that Justin, the one who was originally insistent that Raffy wasn't their sister, has embraced it the most.I hope we do see Hope again in six months or whatever and she seems to have turned a corner a bit and realised she needs to do what's right for Raffy.She might not have much choice in the manner, but her referring to her as "our sister" did suggests she's started to realise that having some more people around who care for Raffy doesn't diminish their own relationship.

Whatever day it was, it was spectacularly dumb of Matt to call Evelyn for an "emergency" without telling her what was going on:Result, Brody and Mason get yelled at for not really doing anything and don't get much of an apology.I did like Evelyn's birthday messages:Chris was in there and I'm assuming "Maddie" was Maddy(did Evie spell it wrong in her address book?).And Alex?My first thought was Alex Poulos, my second thought was "Don't be silly, what's he got to do with Evie?" and my third thought was "Oh hang on, his sister's her aunt now, maybe they've met off screen?" Jeannie seems to have a lot of problems but there seems to be a lot of confusion about how well Evelyn knows her and I'm still trying to work out how old she is:A lot of things make more sense if she's Evelyn's age but that means there's an age gap with Brody.It seems clear that the job's important to her and she referred to it as her chance to be "free", plus she seems to be doing it on the quiet.I did briefly wonder if she's trying to get away from an abusive husband but then Evelyn described her parents as full-on (has she met them or is that just what Jeannie's told her?).Given the mobile that no-one else knows about, I wonder if that's solely for her parents to keep tabs on her.Sounds like they don't know about the job.

Nothing against Duncan and I'm not against him coming back per se, but having Tori put her life on hold until then when she doesn't even seem to like him that much seems like a bad idea, I'd have preferred it if there'd been a clean break.I didn't find Marilyn's advice, which basically seemed to amount to "Who cares if you don't love him, sleep with him anyway", particularly in character either.(Second best exchange of the week:Duncan:"It's not like she's religious or anything."Roo:"Because that's the only reason she wouldn't sleep with you?")So we learn Tori's birth name, Tessa, for the first time: Just leaves Mason although apparently that is listed somewhere if you look for it?Given Justin's sledgehammer subtle reference to her ex last week, I guess it was only a matter of time before he became relevant.I hope there's more to her plan than appears because at the moment it seems to solve nothing.What's she going to do, turn up and say "Tori couldn't make it, I'm her friend Tessa"?If the hospital ring up to make sure she attended, are they going to be satisfied with that and not wondering where she really was?Most damningly, if she's trying to fly under the radar, wouldn't openly attending under her birth name attract even more attention than attending under her new name when there's someone there who knows who she used to be?

[atrus]

One of the more interesting implications of the Morgans' backstory is their difficulty in forming relationships. I had assumed it was only Brody in this boat, but we got more of a sense today that it's also deeply affected Tori - and her scenes with Duncan this week really helped to flesh out her character. The ending with Duncan going to America wasn't particularly satisfactory; and unless he really is coming back, I'd rather they'd given both characters closure by pairing him back with Caroline, and splitting him from Tori for good.

I continue to like the Brody/Jeannie dynamic, although clearly there's something going on with her that will ensure their relationship isn't plain sailing. I found myself wondering whether there was a reason Jeannie (apparently uniquely among guests as far as I could see) isn't being given a surname in the credits - possibly some secret family tie to a main character, or (more likely) just an oversight? Elsewhere in Morgan-land, I was pleased that Hope saw sense and encouraged Raffy to live with them. Hopefully jail won't take its toll on her too hard, as she's obviously a well-meaning person deep down - but my suspicion is that we might not ever see her again for one reason or another.

Onto the Kat and Ash stuff, and we begin to see Ash falling into the usual Braxton pattern of getting deeper and deeper into unsavoury behaviour against his better judgement, and Kat acquiescing for selfish reasons. I'm kind of annoyed they seemed to get away with it, particularly after the way he treated (Shanae?), although on the plus side, it could mean the end of the storyline for the time being - and I suppose it could yet come back to bite them.

I was more or less with Leah for the most part over the Zac book-writing debacle, which doesn't seem to me like remotely legitimate justification for having repeatedly lied to her face. I get that he might not be ready to share his work with her yet, but that's a far cry from pretending to be elsewhere to keep from her the fact that he's writing it in the first place. I don't especially like or trust this Sam character and suspect she's up to mischief of some variety, although I reckon it's possibly more to do with conning him out of money or something rather than making a play for him. Perhaps she coaxes him into putting down a hefty deposit with a publisher or something.

Billie and VJ really seem to have faded into the background a bit of late, which concerns me because that kind of thing usually presages some form of disaster. I didn't like how she was dictating the terms of their wedding, and feel like she ought to have taken VJ's wishes more into account - and then I started remembering that a lack of groomsmen are the least of his problems when it comes to this relationship. I'm really dying for her to be honest with him and for him to forgive her, but I feel like there's probably too much water under the bridge for that to happen now.

I've always found the idea of 'buying stars' a little crass and materialistic, as well as total nonsense because there is no officially recognised catalogue of these things and the companies claiming to sell them have no legitimate stake in the night sky. That said, I appreciated the sentiment of Matt's gesture and, more importantly, I think Evie did too. I was half expecting Oscar's face to form in a constellation and wink at her, in the style of an '80s Doctor Who opening sequence, but happily this didn't transpire.

OLIVIA: Hunter, do you think we have too much drama in our lives?

This really cracked me up. I was hoping we were being led towards some kind of creepy meta storyline where Olivia begins to suspect she's living in a soap opera - because although it's somehow escaped the perpetually doom-prone Irene's attention, everybody in Summer Bay has too much drama in their lives, and always have done. I'm by no means an Olivia and Hunter shipper, but I found Irene's suggestion that the fact they're in frequent turmoil is somehow totally at odds with the relationships enjoyed by all her other friends and family completely bizarre. Compared to some Summer Bay couples, Olivia and Hunter are downright stable. Maybe that's the problem - they've been together too long - and the writers have decided to split them up via existential angst rather than the usually preferred methods of personal crisis/horrific seplane accident.

[Angelica]

I liked the touch of having Chris and Maddy text Evie happy birthday. It is nice to think that Evie and Maddy are still in touch. Although on the other hand, their friendship might get awkward with this budding romance between Evie and Matt. I thought Evie's attitude to her birthday was heartbreaking - it would be hard enough to celebrate the first birthday after losing 2 family members. But the fact that it would have been Oscar's birthday too! I liked her talk with Leah. And I thought Matt's gesture buying the star (even though I am not a fan of the concept of buying stars for people), was a sweet gesture. I admit I got a little teary eyed during the whole episode (although it was a shame that we didn't seen any reaction or interaction from Zac). 

The Morgans still seem to be overdominating storylines. While it is nice to flesh out Tori's character a little with the ex-boyfriend backstory, I still feel that Tori is being unfair in her treatment of Nate and Duncan. She clearly is sticking with Duncan because he is the "safe" option though still having unresolved feelings for Nate. I can't say I would be too upset if Duncan decided to stay in US. And I am not sure I am happy with the idea of Tori waiting for him. I can't say I enjoy the Jeannie/Brody storyline - while Jeannie is sending mixed messages and clearly has many secrets, I can't help but be bowled over how unprofessional Brody is being regardless of whether his feelings are reciprocated. He is her boss and therefore, should not be pursuing his employee. 

I still don't understand why Zac lied to the extent that he did to cover up his book. And his naivety in his dealings with Sam are reminiscent of his similar naivety with Charlotte and Hunter. 

I am so sick of this Ash/Kat/Simmo storyline. 

[H&Alover]

It was blatantly obvious  that when Tori opened up to Marilyn about her ex (Roly?) he would be making an appearance of sorts, and whadda know, just he happens to be going to the same conference!!!!!   She really has been on the relationship wilderness a long time ditto Brody, Justin and Mason don't seem to have the same problem or is it because they are younger?  Anyway it appeared from what she said she had to leave due to them going into WP before the problem, he cheated on her, was resolved and they didn't finish their relationship properly That is going to be tricky her turning up as Tessa Lee when wouldn't all her paperwork have her as Tori Morgan? What's the betting he'll, without her knowledge, follow her back to the bay.  It was a big ask of Duncan expecting her to drop everything to go to the States with him, especially as she doesn't appear to be that into him. Her comment to Justin she was half disappointed and half relieved when he got the call about Caroline was telling and of course she would have left even if she had been up for it, Duncan wouldn't have been in the mood to carry on, if you see what I mean.    Her idea of them spending that time apart to see how they (or her mainly)  really feel about each other was the right decision.  Anyways wouldn't most of Duncan's time be spent looking after Caroline and Bryce?

Ok so Jeannie isn't part of The Syndicate, but she is harbouring some sort of secret, she has a reason for wanting to be paid in cash, no paper trail that way, maybe to help her 'be free'  She's keeping her  phone on silent  so perhaps it is so whoever it is, can keep tabs on her, but wasn't it dark when she took that call, classes run late at that uni.   How did the centre where she volunteers get in touch with her? She does at least for now seem to have decided she likes Brody and moved in for two kisses! Her comment when she took the job was she didn't date anyone she worked with and it has been her making all the moves.

Ok VJ and Billie don't have a lot of money to spare and want to keep the ceremony simple, but one groomsman and one bridesmaid isn't going to hurt anyone, whoever it was would have a smart suit and a floaty type dress so Billie is being stubborn there.  Amusing how Marilyn and John had very differing views on it.

Hunter coming across Olivia all upset as she had just found out she was 'late' he was bound to ask why but couldn't she have fibbed, she knew he was on his way to a very important exam and the possibility she was pregnant would have played on his mind. Then telling him later she was OK, and it must have been down to stress would have upset any bloke.  Irene has been up and down with her support/ non support of them as a couple, one moment she's all for them being together, then the next it's the opposite.  VJ even said they do seem to lurch from one drama to the next.  The new grown up Hunter didn't blow a fuse when she suggested it, but reassured her they were OK, but the look on his face after she left, to me at least, seemed to suggest maybe he was thinking she was right.

We did get a brief look at what Sam is planning for Zac and it looked like he knocked her back!  

[Slade]

Well I guess that explains why Tori was so reluctant to get involved with Nate despite wanting to be with him previously and why she was still playing it safe with Duncan.  So she was cheated on in her previous relationship.  And again she seeks advice from Marilyn.  I'm not sure she's the best person to talk to although I'm struggling to think who else.  Tori's not particularly close with Irene and I don't think Phoebe's the right person.  Roo is Duncan's brother, Leah is good friends with Nate and again close to Duncan and Kat will probably put her off going by their conversation last time about Nate.  So she and Duncan wasted money on a motel room.  Next time they might want to think about using one of the caravans.  Tori's reaction was a bit OTT when Duncan asked her to go to the US granted that he couldn't have expected her to drop everything.  So with Caroline injured he's going to be gone for some time.  This demonstrates the problem with her not wanting to take any risks.  Whether subconsciously or not she's naturally resisting Duncan's attempts to take things further.  On Thursday it was because this was her first relationship in seven years and she was virtually a newbie but on Friday when Duncan actually mentioned it he thought it was also because she was put off by Caroline.  So there's still something about her body language that makes him think this way.  It will be interesting to see what happens with Nate now that Duncan's gone.  It looked like she was about to declare her feelings towards Nate when she tried to convince him not to leave earlier on just as Duncan showed up at the hospital.  She's resisting Duncan and also trying to resist her feelings towards Nate.  No doubt she's going to be fully tested

Brody continues with his lack of professionalism i.e. giving Jeannie more money than she was entitled to before she left the job.  I'm all for him going out of his way to track her down but I think inviting her back to work is a very bad idea.  They were no longer working together and if she really liked him she would be prepared to see him regardless of whether she is working at Salt or not.  I did agree with what was mentioned in some of the previous posts i.e. there was something not quite right about her.  I think the fact that she told Evelyn she doesn't have a mobile phone or the Internet and we saw her answer her phone means she obviously doesn't want anybody to get hold of her - How's that going to work if they are ever short staffed and Brody needs someone to immediately to a shift and she's the only one available?

The argument with Hunter and Olivia after she had the pregnancy scare was hilarious.  I do think she should have perhaps waited for confirmation about being pregnant before saying anything although he did ask her what was wrong.  I also think he was a bit harsh blaming her for getting it wrong although they seem to be making up a lot quicker now.  He delivered an absolutely classic line - "Keeping the baby could be OK look at Billie and VJ".

OK, let's look at Billie and VJ.  I thought this was a mutual partnership...not.  So he's not allowed to have bridesmaids, a best man or doves.  She explained she was allergic to feathers which was fair enough but I can't help thinking that her wanting as few people as possible present at the wedding is because she's aware she is deceiving him and she knows it's not right so she would feel uncomfortable saying her vows (basically more lies and deception) in front of an audience.  It seemed very reminiscent when they had an argument a while back when he was struggling with his studies and blamed her for getting pregnant then she stormed off.  I did feel slightly sickened when she kissed him but hopefully this won't go on for too much longer.  John was annoying the way he kept watching them in the Diner after giving VJ 'advice'.