Sam Deprecation Thread **Spoilers**

[Jamey-Maria]

And here I was thinking she'd already sunk as low as she could go she deletes a message that says "I hope your wedding's everything you want it to be" Seriously. How paranoid can you be?!

[princess.mattie]

I have been reading this thread...

I really hate Sam...

But not the actor

But I just want Martha and Jack together

[Jamey-Maria]

Oh I've gone so far past the point of caring about Jack and Martha being in this storyline anymore (and they're MEANT to be one of my favourite couples) That women is just such a desperate, controlling, passive-agressive (description thanks to Josh) freak that I can't focus on anything else rather than when she's leaving. I really, really can't take much more of her.

[emmasi]

How? How does she keep surprising me? Shouldn't I expect the lowest possible behaviour from her by now?? I guess I just can't fathom anything that petty and vindictive until she actually goes and does it...

[caitrules]

I cant wait for Jack to find out exactly what he's married, which probably wont be until after Sam cuts Martha's brake cables later down the track. After tonight who could put it past her?

[emmasi]

Not I. I hope that she hasn't cut the brakes though because if that car crashes, Scruffy will be right through the windshield. Haven't they heard of doggie seat belts?? Or at least keeping him in the back seat...

[abbie]

I really am shocked to hear how low she will go! If she didnt feel like she was number one in thier relationship she shouldnt marry him

[Skykat]

I'm really disappointed with what they've done with Sam's character. I really, really liked her when she first arrived, I thought she was a breath of fresh air in the never ending circle of Jack and Martha. I have nothing against Jack and Martha, I do think they genuinely love each other but I think they're one of those couples that just don't suit being together if that makes sense. They just want such vastly different things, anyway back to sam

I liked her relationship with Jack, I thought she bought out a different side to his character, a more settled one, with Martha it was always more about the spark, with Sam he seemed to have a real depth.

However since this wedding she has become really neurotic. I get that she's jealous of Martha and to be honest she probably has a right to be, Jack still does have feelings for her after all but she's going about things all wrong. All her actions are going to end up doing is causing a rift between her and Jack.

I think the writers have started to see her more as a pawn in the martha/ Jack circle rather than making her a character in her own right and if this doesn't sound completely harsh, I kind of feel they're deliberatly making her character a hate figure in order to win the doubters over to wanting Jack and Martha back together again. Does that make any sense?

[brit2112]

Oh I've gone so far past the point of caring about Jack and Martha being in this storyline anymore (and they're MEANT to be one of my favourite couples) That women is just such a desperate, controlling, passive-agressive (description thanks to Josh) freak that I can't focus on anything else rather than when she's leaving. I really, really can't take much more of her.

I agree, my dislike for this character extends so far beyond wanting Jack and Martha together. I just can't stand her and it gets worse every time I see her, I really hope she is leaving soon.

[Jamey-Maria]

It does. And I completely agree, they are. I feel like if they really wanted to they could have made the audience sympathetic to both of the female characters in the storyline, being Martha and Sam. Sam could have had more depth if they'd focus on why she does what she does and not totally breeze over it so you can only ever see how irrational she is. There's always been alternative couples for those that don't like the current 'golden couple' like Noah/Kit instead of Hayley/Noah. And IMO a lot of the time there's much more subtext in the couple that isn't continuosly over hyped. I really loved both Hayley and Kit during their love trianlge as it managed to develop all characters involved individually where as by comparison Martha and Sam is a one way street.

If that made no sense ignore because I just woke up.