Pierced Musie Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 What do you mean by it needs to be deleted and reopened? Im just agreeing with Emmadolly that she did absolutley nothing wrong, and had no right to be picked on by the others for voicing her oppinion. Exactly. Hence the reason I think this needs to be started all over again.
Cal Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 I know that Cal F. I meant why? So all this arguing sh!* will go.
Guevara01 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 Probably just to give the situation a chance to cool down, so that people can start again. xxx
Traceve Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 Im not Argueing, it has nothing to do with me, I was just sticking up for Emmadolly as everyone else wasnt
Guevara01 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 I don't think it's because of you Shannon, just to give people (en mass) a wake up call to the fact that this is a "support" thread and no one should have to feel threatened by any situation/person on here. xxx
Frankie Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 I do not think that anyone is helping this situation by arguing in this way publically. ...... I am going to put my two million cents worth in anyway. It is very hard to know where to pitch things when expressing your feelings in this thread, or indeed in others...and if you have a deep seated problem it must be doubly hard. Depression is a weird thing and can be totally debilitating and it can take over your whole life. Sometimes when it has gone on for a long long time it is almost too frightening to confront it head on and to try to stop..sometimes people have got to a stage where they define themsleves by their depression and so letting go can be real scary. However, admitting its a problem is putting a toe in the water so to speak...well its the firtst step.... Mar has done that and when she is ready she will take the next step..its no use trying to force the issue...she has said herself that there is an element of functionality in it for her....that is rare insight! On the other hand, when people read about other people's pain they want to say something, they want to try and ease it, they want to make it better..even though deep down they know they probably can't...and they want to help...it is human nature....even when they don't know someone very well...some people express themselves in offering advice better than others...but I am sure that all the advice offered is done so with the best of intentions...the thing with advice though is that you give it...and then you must stand back and the recipient must make a choice as to whether they act on it..and we must respect their decision..even when we think they might be making the wrong one... It seems to me there are a lot of people who care here...some of us have problems which we need to off load....some problems are huge...some less so....some of us find it easier to talk than others...some of us find it easier to talk to one person as opposed to another......and that's OK...but at the end of the day we all have to make our own choices and live with them... So I would say is this...advice may be given with the best of intentions..it may not be what you want to hear...but don't shoot the messenger...and to the advice givers...don't react personally if somone does not react with gratitude..it's very hard to be grateful when you are hearing a hard or unwanted message. or a message you are not ready to hear ...just remember all the unwanted advice you have had and how annoying it was to you.. ...just continue to be there...even if only to listen and if and when someone wants to take that next step they will let you know. Here endeth todays lecture!
Emmadolly Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 How bloody rude Mercury Girl - if you don't want advice from Emmadolly then don't post in a support advice thread. I remember when you joined this forum and you've a lot of moaning since then. Surely your old enough to work this out by now. Emmadolly stop apologising. She claimes no-one knows her but she posts about herself contantly so surely people will have some input. And you have never posted anything but crap as well, in my honest opinion as a member here. astogirl 24, Thanks for your opinion. But you do not post crap as i can't even remember you. Because if you posted rubbish i would of remembered you. But you obviously read the threads to have that opinion.
Emmadolly Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 First off, I have not having a go at Emma. She tried to help, but unfortunately she doesn't know me well, and therefore I let her know that it didn't do any good. I've tried to tell her before, but she has not taken the more sublte hints. As for posting here - several members do, and if other members are to say what can and cannot be posted in this thread, there is no point in it. My 2 cents, anyway. I'll stay away from now on as you're all hypocrites. How bloody rude Mercury Girl - if you don't want advice from Emmadolly then don't post in a support advice thread. I remember when you joined this forum and you've a lot of moaning since then. Surely your old enough to work this out by now. Emmadolly stop apologising. She claimes no-one knows her but she posts about herself contantly so surely people will have some input. And you have never posted anything but crap as well, in my honest opinion as a member here. Can everyone please just stop it. This is suppose to be a Support Group Room. It was until people starting sticking their noses where they don't belong. Especially some members who has never offered anything worth mentioning for the "general community" on this board. Mer you have never ever given subtle hints at all. I can't believe the attention you have drawn to your self. I have not killed anyone, or mugged an old lady. All i done was give you advice, as i thought you was asking for it, and support. When you post so so so so so much about your depression, it seems that you prefere to have pointless replys.
Pierced Musie Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 I do not think that anyone is helping this situation by arguing in this way publically. ...... I am going to put my two million cents worth in anyway. It is very hard to know where to pitch things when expressing your feelings in this thread, or indeed in others...and if you have a deep seated problem it must be doubly hard. Depression is a weird thing and can be totally debilitating and it can take over your whole life. Sometimes when it has gone on for a long long time it is almost too frightening to confront it head on and to try to stop..sometimes people have got to a stage where they define themsleves by their depression and so letting go can be real scary. However, admitting its a problem is putting a toe in the water so to speak...well its the firtst step.... Mar has done that and when she is ready she will take the next step..its no use trying to force the issue...she has said herself that there is an element of functionality in it for her....that is rare insight! On the other hand, when people read about other people's pain they want to say something, they want to try and ease it, they want to make it better..even though deep down they know they probably can't...and they want to help...it is human nature....even when they don't know someone very well...some people express themselves in offering advice better than others...but I am sure that all the advice offered is done so with the best of intentions...the thing with advice though is that you give it...and then you must stand back and the recipient must make a choice as to whether they act on it..and we must respect their decision..even when we think they might be making the wrong one... It seems to me there are a lot of people who care here...some of us have problems which we need to off load....some problems are huge...some less so....some of us find it easier to talk than others...some of us find it easier to talk to one person as opposed to another......and that's OK...but at the end of the day we all have to make our own choices and live with them... So I would say is this...advice may be given with the best of intentions..it may not be what you want to hear...but don't shoot the messenger...and to the advice givers...don't react personally if somone does not react with gratitude..it's very hard to be grateful when you are hearing a hard or unwanted message. or a message you are not ready to hear ...just remember all the unwanted advice you have had and how annoying it was to you.. ...just continue to be there...even if only to listen and if and when someone wants to take that next step they will let you know. Here endeth todays lecture! ... But you can't justify closing this thread down and creating a new one? This thread has turned out just like the Bullying thread did last year and yet it's still here. You have to take in to consideration that people are going to get their feelings hurt if this topic continues. Some of us have already tried to stop this but it didn't happen.
katya Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 Frankie - true words of wisdom, if ever I heard any. I think it would be a shame if the entire thread was deleted - some people who have sought advice here before might want to revisit it to remind themselves of what others said. Is there any way of just deleting the more "heated" posts?
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