cymbaline Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 Adam had a rough time after Bobby died too. Did he deserve it? Quote
nenehcherry2 Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 (edited) 45 minutes ago, cymbaline said: Adam had a rough time after Bobby died too. Did he deserve it? In my opinion, no. It was an unexpected piece of driftwood. Yes, he turned around for a split second to chat to them and was speeding a little but it was a reasonably unforeseen accident. It was in character for some of them to react the way that they did towards Adam. Particularly Don and Alf. And... Why didn't she wear a lifejacket? Given that she'd worn one in her earlier joyride with Adam and Greg? Given that she hit her head hard, it probably wouldn't have prevented the outcome. But it showed an element of "accepted risk" from her side. Edited April 25 by nenehcherry2 3 Quote
CaptainHulk Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 44 minutes ago, cymbaline said: Adam had a rough time after Bobby died too. Did he deserve it? He WAS at fault and did cause her death but he owned what he did, so No. Greg's anger would be justified if *he* was a MUCH more sympathetic character and Adam showed no remorse. 1 Quote
nenehcherry2 Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CaptainHulk said: He WAS at fault and did cause her death but he owned what he did, so No. Greg's anger would be justified if *he* was a MUCH more sympathetic character and Adam showed no remorse. Technically he was at fault as he had a duty of care to his "passengers" and wilfully ignored the speed limit BUT it was truly an accident. Who'd have reasonably expected a lone piece of driftwood to be floating in the harbour? He did own it in the end, yes, although he also initially tried to get Luke to change his story. He was fearful of going to jail, it's perfectly understandable, however wrong. Edited April 25 by nenehcherry2 2 Quote
cymbaline Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 Adam was a victim of his own reputation when it came to that accident. Apart from Marilyn and Matt, he never really had any friends in the Bay. Plenty of people liked him to a certain extent but they also knew that he was self-centred and untrustworthy. That was why his rare bouts of integrity stuck out like a sore thumb - they rarely happened. I don't think Luke or Nick would've got such a hard time if they had been the one behind the wheel. On 25/04/2024 at 20:57, CaptainHulk said: He WAS at fault and did cause her death but he owned what he did, so No. Greg's anger would be justified if *he* was a MUCH more sympathetic character and Adam showed no remorse. They really trashed Greg in the last couple of months of his time, didn't they? First, he cheated on Bobby and was probably only taken back by her because of Sam. Then when he tried to parent Sam on his own, he was pretty horrible to him. And then as a final coup de gras, he dumped the kid with Uncle Donald and took a job that would take him far away from home. Quote
CaptainHulk Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 ^ And in 2000, He didn't exactly acquit himself when Sam wanted to reconnect. 1 Quote
nenehcherry2 Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 (edited) 13 hours ago, cymbaline said: Adam was a victim of his own reputation when it came to that accident. Apart from Marilyn and Matt, he never really had any friends in the Bay. Plenty of people liked him to a certain extent but they also knew that he was self-centred and untrustworthy. That was why his rare bouts of integrity stuck out like a sore thumb - they rarely happened. I don't think Luke or Nick would've got such a hard time if they had been the one behind the wheel. They really trashed Greg in the last couple of months of his time, didn't they? First, he cheated on Bobby and was probably only taken back by her because of Sam. Then when he tried to parent Sam on his own, he was pretty horrible to him. And then as a final coup de gras, he dumped the kid with Uncle Donald and took a job that would take him far away from home. In an interview from around the time, Ross said he enjoyed playing a "semi-baddie" and those couple of months helped prevent him being typecasted from his prior 2 years as a goodie-goodie. As much as it made no sense character wise, perhaps the writers (axing him) wanted to do him a good turn as an actor by letting him show those other layers before he left. Edited April 29 by nenehcherry2 1 Quote
Martin Dibble? Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 On 03/02/2024 at 13:07, adam436 said: Debra Lawrence talked about that return in a podcast interview and it sounds like "someone stuffed up" and the producers realised no one was around. It must have been a surreal time for Debra, as she said she didn't know any of the cast at the time either, which is probably true. Ray Meagher and Lynne McGranger were absent (hence, the need for Pippa), and she'd never worked regularly with the other stalwarts of the time, Ada Nicodemou and Lyn Collingwood. She wasn't even in a familiar set either, since she was staying at the Beach House and not Summer Bay House. Great analysis, and thanks for the intel. Do you happen to remember where Debra said this, and do you have a link? Quote
j.laur5 Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 Debra said she wouldn’t return as regular. Fair enough given her life in Melbourne. But I do think Debra would do guest appearances if asked and she was available. I think even if Debra Lawerence had stayed on the show till this day the direction of show still would have changed. 1 Quote
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