Kane/Kirsty

[Red Ranger 1]

If you look at it from another perspective, Kane's the homewrecker.Kirsty and Miles were together, in a steady relationship, living together.And he turned up expecting to be able to just click his fingers and get Kirsty back.Kirsty was separated, even if it was just for a few months, and Miles didn't do anything wrong by getting involved with her and certainly didn't deserve violence.You can't say it wasn't Kane's choice to separate, he told Kirsty to get on with her life without him and refused to take her calls.Okay, he wouldn't have done that if he hadn't gone to jail but he chose to cut himself out of hers and Ollie's life.

(By the way, neither Jesse nor Nathan ever committed a violent crime or armed robbery, at least not until near the end when Jesse beat up Chloe's abusive ex.Nathan burgled the school, not a violent crime.Jesse was involved with stolen cars and came pretty close to robbing Don's house while he was out but never did anything violent.)

[Slade]

I have to strongly disagree here. Part of the reason I root for Kane, was because he SUFFERED far more than ANY other character in Home and Away's history. He may not have went to jail, but be honest with yourself here. Can you truly think of anyone else in the history of this show, that was so demonised by fellow residents? Any? Anyone? Because I can't. One of the things about Kane is that he was hounded and demonised like no tomorrow, right up until he left. No one gave him a break. NO ONE. That never happened with any other character. The abuse, the slurs, the hostility, the demonisation, that was far worse than him going to jail. All that he endured, my point all along has been that he paid for what he did 10 times over, just by having to suffer through the residents of Summer Bay. NO ONE has ever paid more for their mistakes, or been punished, more than Kane did, jail or no jail. No one.

I thought about what I’ve said again but I still think this is very much a grey area. Regardless I still believe that in some people’s eyes Kane did not get his comeuppance (that is part of the reason why I feel they don’t like him). It’s a simple as that. Yes he was treated like an outcast and completely ostracised by most of Summer Bay (as an aside Alf, Jesse, Flynn, Noah and Irene all gave him a chance which I believe was part of the reason for his reform) as I can remember the treatment from the likes of Scott, Seb, Josh etc who all used him a punchbag at some point (incidentally I left the Sutherlands out because I think their actions were perfectly understandable, Rhys was just trying to protect his daughter(s) and you can’t blame him for that, nor can you blame the rest of them for hating him). However Angie and Zoe died, (I presume Zoe died from the explosion at Jack and Martha’s reception) and Barry Hyde went to jail so I meant in that sense there was no justice for some people regarding Kane. Also to be fair he could have walked away at anytime and he chose to come back to that situation even though he hadn’t seen Kirsty for about a year (and another argument was that he owed it to Dani to allow her to come to terms with what happened without being around him). Furthermore I think rape is a very sensitive issue (as you said). Judging by remarks I’ve seen from some posters, it appears to be the one crime where there is no forgiveness. And reading other forums a lot of people always saw Kane as the bad guy and didn’t like the fact that the writers were trying to making him good (not saying I agree with that but I’m trying to give what I think are full and frank reasons for the resentment that remains).

It’s interesting that you mentioned Jesse and Nathan. Firstly both of them went to jail and served their time (I always thought Nathan did an armed robbery at a shop Red Ranger and didn’t Jesse beat someone up but Flynn covered for him). Nathan was in jail for several years so I think it’s perfect plausible for him to have at least reformed to the point where he was no longer a violent criminal. Secondly, again neither of those two committed rape so to some people they were not beyond redemption. I do agree with you regarding Kane though, he helped a lot of people and that seems to be conveniently forgotten. I often wonder what would have happened if he had gone to jail. Things could have turned out very differently for a lot of people.

Finally everyone moved on from that resentment/witchhunt phase. He became friends with Scott (he turned up for the good luck party and the stuck by him through the trial). There were others such as Haley, Irene, Morag (who put up $10000 for his bail), Beth, Tasha etc. I can sense a lot of frustration within your posts. I used to be like that but I’ve come to realise that you just have to accept that some people will never like him but as far as the hardcore fans are concerned it shouldn’t really matter.

[gazzalovesu]

I have to strongly disagree here. Part of the reason I root for Kane, was because he SUFFERED far more than ANY other character in Home and Away's history. He may not have went to jail, but be honest with yourself here. Can you truly think of anyone else in the history of this show, that was so demonised by fellow residents? Any? Anyone? Because I can't. One of the things about Kane is that he was hounded and demonised like no tomorrow, right up until he left. No one gave him a break. NO ONE. That never happened with any other character. The abuse, the slurs, the hostility, the demonisation, that was far worse than him going to jail. All that he endured, my point all along has been that he paid for what he did 10 times over, just by having to suffer through the residents of Summer Bay. NO ONE has ever paid more for their mistakes, or been punished, more than Kane did, jail or no jail. No one.

I thought about what I’ve said again but I still think this is very much a grey area. Regardless I still believe that in some people’s eyes Kane did not get his comeuppance (that is part of the reason why I feel they don’t like him). It’s a simple as that. Yes he was treated like an outcast and completely ostracised by most of Summer Bay (as an aside Alf, Jesse, Flynn, Noah and Irene all gave him a chance which I believe was part of the reason for his reform) as I can remember the treatment from the likes of Scott, Seb, Josh etc who all used him a punchbag at some point (incidentally I left the Sutherlands out because I think their actions were perfectly understandable, Rhys was just trying to protect his daughter(s) and you can’t blame him for that, nor can you blame the rest of them for hating him). However Angie and Zoe died, (I presume Zoe died from the explosion at Jack and Martha’s reception) and Barry Hyde went to jail so I meant in that sense there was no justice for some people regarding Kane. Also to be fair he could have walked away at anytime and he chose to come back to that situation even though he hadn’t seen Kirsty for about a year (and another argument was that he owed it to Dani to allow her to come to terms with what happened without being around him). Furthermore I think rape is a very sensitive issue (as you said). Judging by remarks I’ve seen from some posters, it appears to be the one crime where there is no forgiveness. And reading other forums a lot of people always saw Kane as the bad guy and didn’t like the fact that the writers were trying to making him good (not saying I agree with that but I’m trying to give what I think are full and frank reasons for the resentment that remains).

It’s interesting that you mentioned Jesse and Nathan. Firstly both of them went to jail and served their time (I always thought Nathan did an armed robbery at a shop Red Ranger and didn’t Jesse beat someone up but Flynn covered for him). Nathan was in jail for several years so I think it’s perfect plausible for him to have at least reformed to the point where he was no longer a violent criminal. Secondly, again neither of those two committed rape so to some people they were not beyond redemption. I do agree with you regarding Kane though, he helped a lot of people and that seems to be conveniently forgotten. I often wonder what would have happened if he had gone to jail. Things could have turned out very differently for a lot of people.

Finally everyone moved on from that resentment/witchhunt phase. He became friends with Scott (he turned up for the good luck party and the stuck by him through the trial). There were others such as Haley, Irene, Morag (who put up $10000 for his bail), Beth, Tasha etc. I can sense a lot of frustration within your posts. I used to be like that but I’ve come to realise that you just have to accept that some people will never like him but as far as the hardcore fans are concerned it shouldn’t really matter.

Thats true

The only good thing about Kane is that he would do anything for Kirsty and Ollie or anyone he loves (but does it the wrong way most of the time)

Edited March 10, 2009 by gazzalovesu

[Red Ranger 1]

I always thought Nathan did an armed robbery at a shop Red Ranger and didn’t Jesse beat someone up but Flynn covered for him

Oh yeah, you're right about Jesse, I think some guy beat up Alex and then Jesse just went crazy on him.(Was it that storyline where Alex's occasional girlfriend's husband got released from jail and started stalking her?)Not so sure about Nathan, you might be right but I don't remember it.The guy did spend seven years in jail though so he more than paid his debt to society.I agree that part of the reason people had a problem with Kane was that, certainly in legal terms, he got away with it:I remember Alex saying it would be easier to accept him being around if he'd served his sentence.

[charliexbrax]

If they got back together and have a normal life with Ollie, that would make me real happy because they were my all favorite couple I still watch old episodes of them and everything, it was ashamed that they put Miles and Kirsty together too soon because Kirsty is the one for Kane and Kane will always be the one for Kirsty and do you know what he said 'Kirsty will always be the one, no one else will be' to Irene. I just hope they bring them back so they can fix up their marriage and be a family again with Ollie.

[project90]

Don't know how they got this storyline happening wouldn't do a same sex storyline because to Controversial. Surely this would of kick up lot of fuss 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-au/entertainment/tv/the-home-and-away-storyline-that-would-be-banned-from-airing-in-2019/ar-AACD9rc

Edited April 28, 2020 by project90