Red Ranger 1 Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 Nicole always wanted the baby.Always.Deep down, she was never 100% committed to the idea:Right from the start, the most important thing to her was that the baby had a good life and was properly looked after.Marilyn should never have taken advantage of her when she was vulnerable, she was motivated solely by her own selfish desire for a baby.She was never going to be a better mother than Nicole, she should have gone for a proper adoption if she really wanted a baby, not tried to take Nicole's.It was obviously going to end up in a nightmare situation for both of them and someone should have put a stop to it before then. Quote
Miranda Posted June 19, 2011 Author Report Posted June 19, 2011 I think it was a knee jerk reaction for Nicole. 'Oh god, I'm pregnant and I don't want the baby. I can't face an abortion, oh, here's a nice woman saying she'll take the baby/problem off my hands, I'll jump at the chance.' When Nic was first pregnant, she couldn'b believe it. It didn't seem real, but then when she grew fatter and felt the baby kicking, she started feeling like it was a real person and began to get motherly feelings. People think that women are somehow naturally ready to be mothers the minute they get pregnant, but for many it is a MASSIVE shock and hard to cope with. So I'm not surprised a young girl like Nicole was in shock and jumped at the chance to get rid of the 'problem'. Quote
xGlowingAngelx Posted June 19, 2011 Report Posted June 19, 2011 i'm glad they are gone and i hope they will never come back. can't stand this bit... Nicole. she make false promises to Marylin and then that. nicole can go to hell. hate her i feel so sorry for marylin. she deserves a baby more than nicole. can't stand nicole. she never want that baby and now this ? Unbelievable. That's not really how it was though. She didn't make a false promise. They made an arrangement. Even once they returned, Nicole had the doubts about whether it would work out, particularly given Sid's initial reaction, and Marilyn kept insisting it's fine. The longer that carried on, the longer Nicole probably felt quite uncertain, yet she was still the one that was carrying the baby. As for Marilyn deserving the baby more, may I ask why you think that? Is it because Marilyn's sadly lost a child before? That's hardly a reason for somebody to "deserve" a child more than somebody else. Nicole can't help the fact Marilyn has been through that. As for Nicole never wanting the baby, that's not entirely true. She didn't want the baby to begin with (and I agree with Miranda, that may well have been just the initital reaction to the out-of-the-blue, unexpected, shock turn her life took with pretty much no warning.) but, at the very least, that may have only been a few weeks. We don't know exactly how long before Nicole made the confession to Angelo she realised herself she wanted to keep it. It may have been that she'd known for a while she felt something, but she didn't want to say anything until she knew for certain how she felt (and she sounded pretty certain when she told Angelo.) Quote
glbizzie Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 (edited) I'm glad they are gone and I hope they will never come back. Can't stand this bit... Nicole. She make false promises to Marylin and then that. Nicole can go to hell. Hate her. I feel so sorry for Marylin. She deserves a baby more than Nicole. Can't stand Nicole. She never want that baby and now this? Unbelievable. That's not really how it was though. She didn't make a false promise. They made an arrangement. Even once they returned, Nicole had the doubts about whether it would work out, particularly given Sid's initial reaction, and Marilyn kept insisting it's fine. The longer that carried on, the longer Nicole probably felt quite uncertain, yet she was still the one that was carrying the baby. As for Marilyn deserving the baby more, may I ask why you think that? Is it because Marilyn's sadly lost a child before? That's hardly a reason for somebody to "deserve" a child more than somebody else. Nicole can't help the fact Marilyn has been through that. As for Nicole never wanting the baby, that's not entirely true. She didn't want the baby to begin with (and I agree with Miranda, that may well have been just the initital reaction to the out-of-the-blue, unexpected, shock turn her life took with pretty much no warning.) but, at the very least, that may have only been a few weeks. We don't know exactly how long before Nicole made the confession to Angelo she realised herself she wanted to keep it. It may have been that she'd known for a while she felt something, but she didn't want to say anything until she knew for certain how she felt (and she sounded pretty certain when she told Angelo.) I understand Nicole's shock in the first time and how she try to handle it was really great entertaining, but than she was seeing how Marilyn was in love with her baby and she was doing everything for it. Marilyn told her so many times, that it's her last time to get an baby. I know she can try a real adoption, but Nicole know how she feel and hurt her so much. And yeah it's because she lost a child and because she is a mother. Little bit childish but such a lovely woman and my biggest wish is a child for her. I know it's just an soap opera and not real, but I feel so sorry for Marilyn. And Nicole isn't that ready for an baby I think. I don't want to say that she isn't a good mother but she is not ready. Edited June 20, 2011 by QUIET ACHIEVER SPAG Quote
tobygirl Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 Anyone else notice Nicole's wedding ring tonight?????? Quote
Miranda Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Posted June 20, 2011 Anyone else notice Nicole's wedding ring tonight?????? Are you watching Australian or UK speed episodes? Quote
Zetti Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 I think deep down that Nicole always wanted the baby, I think the reason for her hesistancy was because of the fact that Penn was the 'biological' father and the fact that he caused her so much pain which probably led to her decision. I thi k the decision to give her baby away was a knee jerk reaction because she was scared. She is still really young which is probably why she confided in Marilyn. I do feel sorry for Marilyn but she seems determined to stop Nicole from seeing George which is personally IMO quite unfair but she didn't seem to care that Nicole was struggling as long as she had George which is IMO pretty low. Quote
Red Ranger 1 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 I understand Nicole's shock in the first time and how she try to handle it was really great entertaining, but than she was seeing how Marilyn was in love with her baby and she was doing everything for it. Marilyn told her so many times, that it's her last time to get an baby. I know she can try a real adoption, but Nicole know how she feel and hurt her so much. And yeah it's because she lost a child and because she is a mother. Little bit childish but such a lovely woman and my biggest wish is a child for her. I know it's just an soap opera and not real, but I feel so sorry for Marilyn. And Nicole isn't that ready for an baby I think. I don't want to say that she isn't a good mother but she is not ready. That cuts both ways though.Marilyn could see that Nicole had feelings for her baby and was bonding with him and did everything she could to put a stop to it.She knew right from the start that Nicole could change her mind, she had a go at Sid when he asked Nicole some very pertinent questions that both Marilyn and Nicole were trying to ignore and was worried Nicole wouldn't let them have the baby anymore.She tried to keep Angus and Roo away from Nicole because she knew they thought the arrangement was a bad idea, she tried to keep Nicole away from George when she caught her breast feeding him because she could tell that she loved him.She didn't care about hurting Nicole, she just cared about getting what she wanted.And Nicole could take George back any time, whether it was after seven weeks or after two or three years when she'd got herself sorted, much like a proper foster case, so it was never going to work out. And really, what did Marilyn have to offer George that Nicole didn't?No job, no savings and a disintegrating relationship?She isn't even more grown up than Nicole despite their respective ages.All she had to offer was love and Nicole could offer that too. Quote
glbizzie Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 I understand Nicole's shock in the first time and how she try to handle it was really great entertaining, but than she was seeing how Marilyn was in love with her baby and she was doing everything for it. Marilyn told her so many times, that it's her last time to get an baby. I know she can try a real adoption, but Nicole know how she feel and hurt her so much. And yeah it's because she lost a child and because she is a mother. Little bit childish but such a lovely woman and my biggest wish is a child for her. I know it's just an soap opera and not real, but I feel so sorry for Marilyn. And Nicole isn't that ready for an baby I think. I don't want to say that she isn't a good mother but she is not ready. That cuts both ways though.Marilyn could see that Nicole had feelings for her baby and was bonding with him and did everything she could to put a stop to it.She knew right from the start that Nicole could change her mind, she had a go at Sid when he asked Nicole some very pertinent questions that both Marilyn and Nicole were trying to ignore and was worried Nicole wouldn't let them have the baby anymore.She tried to keep Angus and Roo away from Nicole because she knew they thought the arrangement was a bad idea, she tried to keep Nicole away from George when she caught her breast feeding him because she could tell that she loved him.She didn't care about hurting Nicole, she just cared about getting what she wanted.And Nicole could take George back any time, whether it was after seven weeks or after two or three years when she'd got herself sorted, much like a proper foster case, so it was never going to work out. And really, what did Marilyn have to offer George that Nicole didn't?No job, no savings and a disintegrating relationship?She isn't even more grown up than Nicole despite their respective ages.All she had to offer was love and Nicole could offer that too. Marylin deserves a baby after all what happened in her Life. And i don't want to say that Nicole isn't a Bad Mom and she deserves a baby too, but for me is Nicole the Young Girly was had an relationship with Geoff and Aden in the last few years and now a Baby ? I think Nicole is to Young for a Baby. I mean Tessa played the Pregnant Teenage Mom realy great and the Storyline fits Home and Away this year more than anyone elses storylines and fits more than Neighbours. it's just unfair for Marylin,who want realy a baby. yeah of course and maybe everyones right about Nicole was shocked and need time to realise that she want that baby, but than don't make this with Marylin. She had never a real Win Win Situation in this Soap and was everytime hurt. Thats realy sad to watch that Marylin will never find her own happiness. It's not Nicole fault at all and realy great watchable Story and Nic/Angelo are okay together. Angelo is not an Character that i like (so is Liam), and he is so boring and im glad he is gone and find an happyend with nic, but i feel realy sorry for Marylin and hope she will have an baby one day. Quote
Red Ranger 1 Posted June 20, 2011 Report Posted June 20, 2011 Maybe Marilyn does deserve to be a mother but so does Nicole and she was the one that got pregnant.Sometimes life is unfair and just because it's dealt Marilyn a few blows doesn't mean Nicole should suffer to make up for it. Quote
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