Dan F Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 9 hours ago, Edward Skylover said: Are you not keen on this incarnation of Olivia, Dan? No particular problem with the casting as such (though blonde was a disappointment ), it's just an observation I had when watching Skye and having watched a few old Chloe scenes recently. On 15/03/2016 at 8:52 PM, Luke39 said: Am I.the only one who doesn't care that Olivia is a completely different character?'i think.casuals who watch dont care either. 7 hours ago, Luke39 said: I.dont get why Ppl Care about continuity. Or connecting past and present. You've made that abundantly clear whenever someone has mentioned that Olivia existed before 2015, so much so that when you go into other threads stating "I'm glad she's nothing like the original Olivia", it's coming across as trying to bait other members. You've previously said that the fact that she's an old character has no effect on your viewing experience, so why would you be glad? In any case, I don't think you can honestly say that your enjoyment of the character would have been affected in the slightest if they had kept a firmer hand on continuity. You say you have no memory of her, so for you and others it would have just been learning more of the backstory of a new character - like you do with any other new character. For those who do remember her however, the consistency would have been noticed and appreciated, and the existing character built upon. Just because you don't care about continuity, it doesn't mean that you should dismiss those who do with an argument along the lines of "She's a teenager now so that means she's a completely different character and people should get over it".
TelephotoMarigold Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 ^^ Isn't that getting rather off topic?
Matt Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 4 hours ago, TelephotoMarigold said: ^^ Isn't that getting rather off topic? It's a discussion about the current producers ruining Home and Away... The reintroduction of characters under a certain producer would fall under that category, don't you think?
Luke39 Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 6 hours ago, Dan F said: No particular problem with the casting as such (though blonde was a disappointment ), it's just an observation I had when watching Skye and having watched a few old Chloe scenes recently. You've made that abundantly clear whenever someone has mentioned that Olivia existed before 2015, so much so that when you go into other threads stating "I'm glad she's nothing like the original Olivia", it's coming across as trying to bait other members. You've previously said that the fact that she's an old character has no effect on your viewing experience, so why would you be glad? In any case, I don't think you can honestly say that your enjoyment of the character would have been affected in the slightest if they had kept a firmer hand on continuity. You say you have no memory of her, so for you and others it would have just been learning more of the backstory of a new character - like you do with any other new character. For those who do remember her however, the consistency would have been noticed and appreciated, and the existing character built upon. Just because you don't care about continuity, it doesn't mean that you should dismiss those who do with an argument along the lines of "She's a teenager now so that means she's a completely different character and people should get over it". Im not dismissing anyone or anything. I was simply sharing my opinion. Your last comment your putting words into my mouth. I never said ThAt. I could say the same about You harping on about Maddy and Matt. But I won't.
Dan F Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Luke39 said: Im not dismissing anyone or anything. I was simply sharing my opinion. Your last comment your putting words into my mouth. I never said ThAt. I could say the same about You harping on about Maddy and Matt. But I won't. Wrong staff member. I didn't say it was a direct quote, just the sentiment you give out: On 07/03/2016 at 7:26 PM, Luke39 said: Some need to accept shew not the Olivia before. Shes now a teenager. So a completely different character. But I'm not getting into an argument about it. Moving on.
TelephotoMarigold Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 28 minutes ago, Matt said: It's a discussion about the current producers ruining Home and Away... The reintroduction of characters under a certain producer would fall under that category, don't you think? Not when some of us weren't allowed to discuss the introduction of other characters along the same vein.
Matt Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 18 minutes ago, TelephotoMarigold said: Not when some of us weren't allowed to discuss the introduction of other characters along the same vein. This isn't about introducing, it's about reintroducing... A producer taking another producer's character and changing them... That, my friend, is about ruining the show
TelephotoMarigold Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Matt said: This isn't about introducing, it's about reintroducing... A producer taking another producer's character and changing them... That, my friend, is about ruining the show Pretty sure that Cameron Welsh was in charge when certain characters were introduced and their story arc was extended under the guise of another producer. However, that is not the point either is it. The several pages of threads regarding 'Oliva 2.0' do not even mention or even delve into whether the current producers are ruining the show or not. I am also not your friend.
Skylover Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 I think the best thing the show could do is bring back one of Pippa's foster children. It's the only thing which will give the show a long term direction. The whole point of the show was about fostering, the Fletcher family. They re-cast Pippa is 1990 because they knew how essential that family was to the show. What is the point of shoe-horning Alf and Leah into Summer Bay House? What's going to happen when all of Zac and Leah's teens leave? I don't want to see them fostering because it would seem contrived. The best thing would be to bring back one of Pippa's foster children and for them to start fostering. Sophie can't come back unfortauntely, I'd like Jack to come back with some foster kids in tow, unlikely maybe? But I think it'd be great and it'd be a contrast to having the 'matriarchal' figure at the centre of Summer Bay House. Don't know if the actor's still acting, I hope so, if not bring back Carly, she was also a great character. Even if these actors don't want to return, they've got a raft of former foster kids they could bring back to start the show on a new path.
KittCatt Posted March 17, 2016 Report Posted March 17, 2016 When characters are reintroduced it's simply good writing to write them in a way that connects them to the character people knew before. Change is always going to happen, especially when recasting, but it is frustrating when old characters return and are essentially nothing like the ones people knew before. I didn't know the younger Olivia and i don't know much about Chloe at all but i would be extremely frustrated if a character i liked returned to be nothing like the one i knew before. Continuity is one of the many things the show struggles with, but it is necessary for the show to work. Home and away has changed dramatically since the beginning, so connecting the past with the present is a great way for people to remember and reminisce about past characters and storylines. I think it should be encouraged.
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