Are the current producers ruining Home and Away?

[alexx]

3 hours ago, Blaxland 89 said:

I wish the dialogue or the conversation between characters would be less boring. I don't mean to be rude about the writers for the current show, I'm sure they know more about writing than me. But it so dull to listen. Maybe because the style of it is so storyline lead leaving little space for any character voice to come through but it's also the language used. It used to be far more colourful and varied between each character. I really find it hard to watch now without my mind wondering. I just want the writing to be more engaging. 

This is one of the reasons I find the current format more boring than it should be. Doesn't matter how many bombs, drugs, murders, explosions - it feels like the writers are out of touch with real humans and real Australians these days. Every time I watch it now it feels like I'm watching glossy actors (who've been through hair and makeup) acting rather than real people living in a seaside town and that's entirely down to the casting, the way they dress the characters, how they tell the stories, the types of stories they tell and how each individual character is written. If they all talk to each other the same way there's little variety it's just boring to watch.

[Homeandawayfan.]

H&A is now as far from reality as a soap can be.

[Jacklost]

12 minutes ago, Homeandawayfan. said:

H&A is now as far from reality as a soap can be.

Like ever other soap in the universe. Scripted shows are never realistic

[Matt]

22 minutes ago, Jacklost said:

Like ever other soap in the universe. Scripted shows are never realistic

Unfortunately, Neighbours is.

[Gerard]

44 minutes ago, alexx said:

 it feels like the writers are out of touch with real humans and real Australians these days. Every time I watch it now it feels like I'm watching glossy actors (who've been through hair and makeup) acting rather than real people living in a seaside town and that's entirely down to the casting, the way they dress the characters, how they tell the stories, the types of stories they tell and how each individual character is written. If they all talk to each other the same way there's little variety it's just boring to watch.

If you think back to how they used to write characters in days gone by, each one was well-defined and unique. You could almost predict how someone was going to react. The characters used to have back-histories, complex relationships and personality traits. Alf was a decent guy with a fiery temper and a sense of humour, old-fashioned values etc. Ailsa was a strong, but very caring, no nonsense, though quite on edge, with a detailed back-story of being in prison. Don Fisher was intellegent and well-read, quite tough at the start but softened over the years. Even the younger cast were well defined and strong characters. Steven was quiet and intelligent, Bobby was fiery and rebellious etc.

Nowadays there are only a handful of characters like that. A lot of especially the younger cast are pretty interchangable, and many of those at the moment you wouldn't even notice if they disappeared without warniing. Perhaps this is deliberate, so that any character can be slotted into any storyline. E.g. "We need a tough-acting thug for that. No problem, there are several to choose from, who isn't too busy right now?".

I suppose if H&A was realistic, most of the characters would be sitting around with their tablets and phones, surfing the internet or playing Pokemon, so it would make for a boring show. But things can go too far in the other direction,

[Homeandawayfan.]

All the characters are just so one dimensional. The Braxtons, Barretts, and Ash especially. Nate and Ricky are as dull as dishwater. They may show the odd redeeming feature but they are still all one dimensional. Roo, Alf, Palmer and Irene are glorified extras now. That is why I tune in maybe once a week, if that, and after about a minute I switch over. I religiously watch Neighbours as well as the Big 3 UK soaps, Hollyoaks excluded, never watch.

They have toned down the harsh music a bit but the music is still very generic and dull. In mid to late 2015 the show seemed to be turning a huge corner but it soon reverted back to its usual dirge.

[Red Ranger 1]

9 hours ago, Jacklost said:

But Charlotte and Jake was evil while Denny was innocent. Big difference

So you think Charlotte was evil. Do you think Andy and Josh aren't evil? If so, what's the difference? Andy killed Hannah and Oscar, two innocent people. None of it was deliberate on either of their part. It was simply the accidental by product of doing the wrong thing. By those ethics, Zac or Evelyn would be perfect entitled to blow Andy away in revenge.Instead we're supposed to see him as a human being who's deserving of compassion and doesn't need to be brought to justice.

9 hours ago, Wanderer101 said:

I don't recall the reason people here are ok with Josh and Andy doing bad things is because they like eachother? And I think the difference with me is I don't necessarily care if a cold blooded murderer is killed. I don't condone it or condemn it, I'm just indifferent.

Then why are they okay with it? Andy is as much a cold-blooded killer as Jake, why is one okay and not the other? It seems to be that that is exactly the excuse people use to try and separate Josh and Andy from their victims, that they act to protect each other and so their motives are somehow seen as pure or right, whereas their victims also loved their family and tried to protect or avenge them, yet they get written off as "evil" and therefore not deserving of basic human rights.

[Homeandawayfan.]

Andy has killed 3 people, one intentionally and 2 by accident. Whether 2 were by accident, he has still killed 3 people!!! In real life he'd get banged up for a very long time, in America he'd get banged up for life without parole.

Perpetrators play the victim all the time, and vilify true victims.

 

[Jacklost]

17 hours ago, Homeandawayfan. said:

Andy has killed 3 people, one intentionally and 2 by accident. Whether 2 were by accident, he has still killed 3 people!!! In real life he'd get banged up for a very long time, in America he'd get banged up for life without parole.

Perpetrators play the victim all the time, and vilify true victims.

 

Technically Roo killed Oscar and Hannah since she bought the tanks knowing they weren't safe

18 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said:

So you think Charlotte was evil. Do you think Andy and Josh aren't evil? If so, what's the difference? Andy killed Hannah and Oscar, two innocent people. None of it was deliberate on either of their part. It was simply the accidental by product of doing the wrong thing. By those ethics, Zac or Evelyn would be perfect entitled to blow Andy away in revenge.Instead we're supposed to see him as a human being who's deserving of compassion and doesn't need to be brought to justice.

Then why are they okay with it? Andy is as much a cold-blooded killer as Jake, why is one okay and not the other? It seems to be that that is exactly the excuse people use to try and separate Josh and Andy from their victims, that they act to protect each other and so their motives are somehow seen as pure or right, whereas their victims also loved their family and tried to protect or avenge them, yet they get written off as "evil" and therefore not deserving of basic human rights.

Charlotte buried Denny's body and pretended to be her for 3 months and threatening people while Andy killed a very evil thug murderer. Andy didn't kill them, the one responsible for using unsafe tanks did wether we wanna admit it or not.

Spoiler

At least Andy confessed pretty quick and he was willing to serve time for it, the only reason he escaped was because of Josh

 

[jodlebirger]

Excactly. These villains have a tendency to be glorified on H&A, just because people think they are exciting. While it is more easier to jugde character that we know more. 

I don't understand why it is so important to put Charlotte on a pidestal. Certain people on here have even said that Charlotte wasn't responsible for her actions, and think it was Hunter's fault. How she has been described from the start, she was a really psychopath, worse than her son, and she was the adult one. 

I really don't like these kind of characters at all. Because they always end up being admired by a lot of fans, no matter what they do.