CaptainHulk Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 1995 was a kickass season tbf and am enjoying the reruns. But we gotta go forward I can live with a crime show if it's done SPARINGLY.
Homeandawayfan. Posted August 10, 2016 Report Posted August 10, 2016 1988-2004 was sublime. 2005-2009 saw a dip and 2011 saw another dip. 2015 did see a lift again but 2016 saw another dip. H&A has been like a huge rollercoaster since Sarah Lewis.
Luke39 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 7 hours ago, Homeandawayfan. said: 1988-2004 was sublime. 2005-2009 saw a dip and 2011 saw another dip. 2015 did see a lift again but 2016 saw another dip. H&A has been like a huge rollercoaster since Sarah Lewis. I agree 88-04 were sublime. But I guess I only started watching Post 2001. 2005-2009 was one of my fav eras from this show. 2011 was like a modern golden age. But that is just me. Different Stroaks and all. Your right 2015 was a big improovement. But then H and A has kinda dipped again this year. Don't know what changed since Charlotte was killed off, but something shifted in the writing after that.
Homeandawayfan. Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 Our fanfics seem to be better written and more consistent than the writing of the show itself.
emmasi Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 2004 is when I started watching/obsessing. Classic bait and switch. I keep waiting for the show to be that fantastic again, and with the exception of a few episodes/scenes/performances, it just hasn't been close. Most of my memorable moments are from 2005 though because I was actively paying attention by then, but I'm sure 2004 was better. I just wish I could remember it properly 2004-2006 released on DVD - is that too much to ask?? Why is no-one cashing in on the rabid Chris Hemsworth fans who would pay any price for that?? All these Marvel movies can't keep being popular forever. The window of opportunity is closing!!
Jacklost Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, emmasi said: 2004 is when I started watching/obsessing. Classic bait and switch. I keep waiting for the show to be that fantastic again, and with the exception of a few episodes/scenes/performances, it just hasn't been close. Most of my memorable moments are from 2005 though because I was actively paying attention by then, but I'm sure 2004 was better. I just wish I could remember it properly 2004-2006 released on DVD - is that too much to ask?? Why is no-one cashing in on the rabid Chris Hemsworth fans who would pay any price for that?? All these Marvel movies can't keep being popular forever. The window of opportunity is closing!! I would love a collection of all scenes involving a Braxton on DVD
CaptainHulk Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Homeandawayfan. said: Our fanfics seem to be better written and more consistent than the writing of the show itself. Normally, I'd say "Ego much?" but I wholeheartedly agree here.
jodlebirger Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 17 hours ago, Homeandawayfan. said: 1988-2004 was sublime. 2005-2009 saw a dip and 2011 saw another dip. 2015 did see a lift again but 2016 saw another dip. H&A has been like a huge rollercoaster since Sarah Lewis. I don't think the viewers agree quite with you. Because the real dip was the 2010 season, the ratings were low all over. 2008 had good ratings and is widely praised by viewers and most fans. 2009 was destroyed by wrong advertising about the year mystery storyline and created too high expectations. The ratings weren't that bad. I agree that the show has been a huge rollercoaster since Sarah Lewis, and such storylines give good ratings for a short time, but it's not good enough in the long run. I am not so sure that I saw huge improvement last year either. Yep, most of the Braxtons were gone, and some other characters got more attention, and some storylines were good in the mid season. But we still had some OTT storylines like Charlotte and Hunter, bad from day one when Charlotte started to flirt with Matt. I think that the show had such promising shorter periods also in the 2011-15 period, for example in early 2013. I think Rosie and also the introduction of Zac was good - before he started to flirt with Bianca and he became pointless. I guess we all have our favourite periods. Mine is 1998-2005, with the exception of Angie, Josie and Sarah Lewis storylines. But there was a period in the 90's when all storylines were so slow that you could skip watching for several months and then tune in again without any problems because nothing had happened, the same storylines was still going on. I really don't want to go back to that style either.
Red Ranger 1 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 I think the dip this year came when they suddenly reverted to making the criminals the protagonists rather than the villains, something I was hoping we'd seen the last of.The sudden U-turn over Hunter, from dangerous psychopath to "good kid" (whilst still essentially behaving the same, it's just the other characters all suddenly like him), sums up the problems under the new producers perfectly.
jodlebirger Posted August 11, 2016 Report Posted August 11, 2016 47 minutes ago, Red Ranger 1 said: I think the dip this year came when they suddenly reverted to making the criminals the protagonists rather than the villains, something I was hoping we'd seen the last of.The sudden U-turn over Hunter, from dangerous psychopath to "good kid" (whilst still essentially behaving the same, it's just the other characters all suddenly like him), sums up the problems under the new producers perfectly. The change didn't feel natural.... There must be a process from being bad to becoming good... And with that extreme behaviour like Hunter had, I think they need to use a lot of energy to create a realistic background storyline for the behaviour and then use a lot of time and energy in the process of making the character change behaviour and attitude. Such things doesn't change overnight, and what made it worse is that they seem to make us forget how serious things Hunter did. The fire was treated like it was a small offence, like stealing 10 dollars... and the electrocution of Marilyn and knocking Josh down the stairs have totally been forgotten about. What Hunter did to Josh isn't anything different from what Tank did. As the matter of fact it was more serious, pushing someone down the stairs than one little punch... And then add Marilyn and the fire to it.... I am some months behind but I think the Dylan storyline is equally bad. Why bring in someone that bad as a lawyer without finding out more about him. I don't like when someone is brought in just to be mean. I know they probably think that people might find it intriguing, but I think it's only irritating. I miss the explanations for the characters behaviour and some solved storylines. For example it seems to me that we never is going to know how Morag and Dylan knew each other and what Morag really knew about him. It feels like Morag should have come up with something that would have brought Dylan down. I think that 10-15 years ago she actually would have.
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