jodlebirger Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 We will always have different opinions on how the show should be. A show will always have it ups and downs. But generally we can say that it changes through the years. Home and Away is 26 years old and a lot in the market have changed since 1988. I think that it became very visible in late 2005/early 2006 when the deeper character storylines were replaced by stalker storylines and other storylines to make people more interested in the show. I think by then the competition between the tv-channels had become harder and more difficult. All over the world we had got more channels, internet and the media became more important in how series, movies etc. developed. For me the show was most interesting from 1998-2005 and in 2008-2009 season. I think the media down under played a big role for how people did see the 2009 season and the vibe around the show down under. But here without the promos nobody expected nothing. And there were no complaints until the people smuggling was revealed in late 2009 season, a topic that was far too political for a soap to handle. The show did got bad reputation and press in 2009 for different reasons, it was not only certain actors/actresses fault I think. After the bad press in 2009 it became important to make the departing characters and actors look bad and the new and returning ones good. And I think that they put morals and ethics aside, and really messed with some sensitive topics. That made me hate the show for a while, it became the show I loved to hate. To "go back to the roots (as they liked to call it), did not quite work and the show dipped in ratings. I think that is the reason they do use the certain formula for success, drama (kidnapping, crimes and so on) and a bit humor in between, and love triangles that can make people talk. And even if some here don't agree with me, the show has had more older characters now than earlier, and that is just because to satisfy the criticism from some long time viewers. They have seen it worked with the Braxtons, and also with the stalker storyline back in 2005 and so on. And it is the reason why the promos down under are even more "aggressive" and come more frequent now than earlier. And we also can see (even I who live on the other side of the globe), that the channel want to control things more, they want to control the actors more, and the storylines and the promos.... just so they can avoid another dip or bad press. The market is tough, much tougher than it once used to be. I do think it is a shame, because the show has lost something in the process. But if we look at other series, movies and stuff - they have just gone in the same directions. There are not that many deep quality movie dramas now, than it once used to be. I do miss the good character storylines, not only on H&A. But the show still is good once and again. I am still able to enjoy in periods. But I also think it is important to raise voices or do some actions when sensitive topics aren't treated the way the should, and not only on the forum. Because as long as people are watching things won't change. And the show do rate well (read the ratings on tv.tonight.com.au). And there seem to be a hard little base of fans here in Norway too. The show is far too big for the channel to take any risk with a new turn in the storyline telling, unless the ratings are dipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacklost Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 What are you talking about? The show is better than ever now, in two years you will say the same thing then and complain about how good it was back in 2014 I don't agree that the show is better than ever. I get your point, sometimes that does happen - but only because the quality just gets worse and worse haha Seriously though, whilst there were boring patches I pretty much enjoyed the show right up until 2005/2006, where it started to change but I still enjoyed watching it mostly. Then it was back on form in 2008, slipped back in 2009 - picked up early 2010 and then I followed it right up until sometime in 2011 where it started to become what it is now. 2012-now I stopped watching (other than to tune in every few months to see if it improving/changing). The show has had bad years and good years. 2010 was a bad year, 2011 was ok, 2012 was great and 2013 was besides all the tragis deaths a great year to. This is all my opinion by the way as with you:) My favorite year was and will always be 2008. I think that saying the show gets worse ans worse is way overreacting, people probably said the same thing in 2009 but now when we look back 2009 was actually a very nice year. Tho i miss the who killed who thing that used to happen every year on the show If you haven´t followed for that long you haven´t seen Jet in the show have you? He i think is a fantastic character and actor in the show, his realationship to John is just heart warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadyctslover Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 What are you talking about? The show is better than ever now, in two years you will say the same thing then and complain about how good it was back in 2014 Based on... what? If you actually took the time to go back a few years and read posts from myself, Alexx and LOTB for example, you would see that we really used to enjoy the show. Because it used to be a better show! The show isn't at it's lowest point currently, I'd say that was 2012, which interestingly you describe as a great year. I guess it's all a matter of opinion though. I value clever, interesting storylining, realistic dialogue and writing. Whereas you enjoy the show as it is currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexx Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 What are you talking about? The show is better than ever now, in two years you will say the same thing then and complain about how good it was back in 2014 I don't agree that the show is better than ever. I get your point, sometimes that does happen - but only because the quality just gets worse and worse haha Seriously though, whilst there were boring patches I pretty much enjoyed the show right up until 2005/2006, where it started to change but I still enjoyed watching it mostly. Then it was back on form in 2008, slipped back in 2009 - picked up early 2010 and then I followed it right up until sometime in 2011 where it started to become what it is now. 2012-now I stopped watching (other than to tune in every few months to see if it improving/changing). If you haven´t followed for that long you haven´t seen Jet in the show have you? He i think is a fantastic character and actor in the show, his realationship to John is just heart warming Yep I've seen Jett. Actually I've tried to follow the John, Jett and Marilyn storyline because Imo they're the best characters out of the current cast. They're the only ones that have the traditional Home and Away 'feel' about them out of the current cast Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacklost Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 So people here generally don't like the show anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeandawayfan. Posted February 8, 2014 Report Share Posted February 8, 2014 I have said I still watch the show even if I can miss an episode. If I disliked the show I would switch off altogether. I think the show has some good characters in it and some good stories, it is just the over emphasis on the Braxtons and too much violence and cruelty which they need to cut down on. People are entitled to their views but IMHO the show is not as bad as some make out. I have already stated how I think the show has come on as a whole since 1988. Some may disagree some may agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacklost Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I have said I still watch the show even if I can miss an episode. If I disliked the show I would switch off altogether. I think the show has some good characters in it and some good stories, it is just the over emphasis on the Braxtons and too much violence and cruelty which they need to cut down on. People are entitled to their views but IMHO the show is not as bad as some make out. I have already stated how I think the show has come on as a whole since 1988. Some may disagree some may agree. How would a soap be without all the violence and cruelty? I know how that is, i know shows that has none of that anymore and are boring. By IMHO do you mean in my honestly opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexx Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I have said I still watch the show even if I can miss an episode. If I disliked the show I would switch off altogether. I think the show has some good characters in it and some good stories, it is just the over emphasis on the Braxtons and too much violence and cruelty which they need to cut down on. People are entitled to their views but IMHO the show is not as bad as some make out. I have already stated how I think the show has come on as a whole since 1988. Some may disagree some may agree. How would a soap be without all the violence and cruelty? I know how that is, i know shows that has none of that anymore and are boring. By IMHO do you mean in my honestly opinion? I'm happy with violent and gritty storylines - but there has to be balance. Once it becomes repetitive it becomes meaningless, boring and predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaxland 89 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 I have said I still watch the show even if I can miss an episode. If I disliked the show I would switch off altogether. I think the show has some good characters in it and some good stories, it is just the over emphasis on the Braxtons and too much violence and cruelty which they need to cut down on. People are entitled to their views but IMHO the show is not as bad as some make out. I have already stated how I think the show has come on as a whole since 1988. Some may disagree some may agree. How would a soap be without all the violence and cruelty? I know how that is, i know shows that has none of that anymore and are boring. By IMHO do you mean in my honestly opinion? Again its just a matter of opinion, but I find relentless violence and cruelty boring. What I find interesting is a good script and originality. Some times I think long term fans get tarred with the image that they don't like it simply because it has changed. That's not the case. The show has always had a very natural development over the years. If anything, it's hasn't developed in recent years, instead it just goes round and around in circles. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homeandawayfan. Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Lucy Addario needs to buck her ideas up I think. She seems to be too biased towards The River Boys and she likes the gritty stories. Of course soaps need these but as said the right balance. Not an overdoing. I did leave a Twitter on Lucy's page saying how I dont find the crime stories nail biting anymore and of course no reply, then again she probably gets 1000s of tweets a day but seems to only reply to positive ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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