Are the current producers ruining Home and Away?

[cadyctslover]

I thought the Adam story line was a load of nonsense.

Those kind of stories (which happen too often) make the show seem like a cheap carbon copy of US cop shows and Underbelly.

Allot of people would disagree with that.

You mean you would. Instead of simply disagreeing with other posters, why don't you add something to the discussion and give us some reasoning for the Adam storyline being anything other than unoriginal tosh.

Martin is a better actor than most of the cast that has been on the show, we need decent actors like him

The acting wasn't really his point though was it?

[demerse]

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

Got back into it for the Angela Russell story. Enjoyed it since, partly for the cartoonish whodunnits as well as the old stalwarts like Alf, Sally, Morag, Colleen.

The lead up to Sally's exit was magnificent, Milko arrival genius. Jack shooting. Summer Bay stalker. Josh West murder. Rev Hall going rogue. The Peter Baker reincarnation.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

I wasn't sticking strictly to the timeline there.

Yeah, Maddie I think. Anytime I stuck it on lately, she seemed to be whinging about something.

Lyne did a decent turn alright - no problem with his acting. But the plot made no sense whatsoever.

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

By cartoonish, I mean outandish, larger-than-life, silly really, if you want. But often enjoyable. Nurse Zoe and the tick tock... funny stuff. There were people in my work faxing 'tick tock' messages to each other.

The list of possible suspects for doing over Josh West. Triumphant stuff.

The day Flynn Saunders had the accident that finished him - when they ran about nine storylines together in one episode.

Outlandish stuff aside - the emotion of the good doc's death. Sally magnificent. Not a hope of reproducing something like that now.

[Jacklost]

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

Got back into it for the Angela Russell story. Enjoyed it since, partly for the cartoonish whodunnits as well as the old stalwarts like Alf, Sally, Morag, Colleen.

The lead up to Sally's exit was magnificent, Milko arrival genius. Jack shooting. Summer Bay stalker. Josh West murder. Rev Hall going rogue. The Peter Baker reincarnation.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

I wasn't sticking strictly to the timeline there.

Yeah, Maddie I think. Anytime I stuck it on lately, she seemed to be whinging about something.

Lyne did a decent turn alright - no problem with his acting. But the plot made no sense whatsoever.

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

By cartoonish, I mean outandish, larger-than-life, silly really, if you want. But often enjoyable. Nurse Zoe and the tick tock... funny stuff. There were people in my work faxing 'tick tock' messages to each other.

The list of possible suspects for doing over Josh West. Triumphant stuff.

The day Flynn Saunders had the accident that finished him - when they ran about nine storylines together in one episode.

Outlandish stuff aside - the emotion of the good doc's death. Sally magnificent. Not a hope of reproducing something like that now.

Maddie probably gonna change as she ages and mature on the show, allot of young characters have started out as annoying teenagers before they turned into a decent adult person that get´s married and have children

I miss the each year kill suspect time

[demerse]

Yeah, she might. She is terribly annoying though.

But she is far from the biggest problem.
Everything about it is shallow now. The way they brought in those geezers - the Mitchells is it - and we're supposed to care about the lad getting shot. Sure he'd only been in it five mins and had spent all that time moaning. Why would people care?

[Jacklost]

Yeah, she might. She is terribly annoying though.

But she is far from the biggest problem.

Everything about it is shallow now. The way they brought in those geezers - the Mitchells is it - and we're supposed to care about the lad getting shot. Sure he'd only been in it five mins and had spent all that time moaning. Why would people care?

Annoying but so hot:)

I have been watching the show for over 10 years and despite not being as good as before i still think the show is great now, i will never stop watching it:)

[JamesC10]

It's a shame that the Bay lost its identity from 2008 onwards (when Sally left). I don't want Home and Away to be known as a teen soap. I want Home and Away to be for ALL age groups.

[Jacklost]

It's a shame that the Bay lost its identity from 2008 onwards (when Sally left). I don't want Home and Away to be known as a teen soap. I want Home and Away to be for ALL age groups.

Hehe it was always a teen soap:)

That´s what makes it so special and much better than grown up soaps like Bold and the beautiful and Hollyoaks

[Light of the Bay]

It wasn't always a teen soap actually.

It used to be a drama that catered for viewers of all ages. It was a family show than anyone and everyone could watch together.

Now it's pretty much aimed at a teenage audience. Ever wondered why they cast catalogue models so much? Although, there are a few exceptions.

[John]

Are we suggesting that not agreeing with us and not acting on our criticisms amounts to arrogance? Are we being arrogant in demanding that they should?

No. The arrogance lies in ignoring the fact that a significant proportion of the audience aren't interested in the Braxton's.

You don't have to then go as far as changing the whole show to suit those viewers, but failing to admit this fact in interviews, and explain that they aim to give equal share of storylines to all characters is wrong. And the real issue is that they're not trying to do that.

Do they aim to do that? Is that the strategy they work to for character use? Are some characters content to be used in background roles and does that suit the PTB vision for the show?

[Homeandawayfan.]

I think in the early years H&A wasn't an all teen soap (whereas today it is more teen based) but has always had a fair amount of teenagers I have been watching episodes of 2 soaps from Jan to May 1988, H&A and the UK soap Emmerdale Farm and H&A was head and shoulders more modern than Emmerdale which had about 3 characters under 25 compared to the 10 or so H&A characters and Emmerdale in 1988 was still a pretty outdated rural soap.

I think it is natural for a fan of the show past and present to defend the modern day show when necessary. Also I dont get this "the show was great in the 1980s" theory. Some 1988 Neighbours and H&A had some dreadful acting in it IMHO.

Yes, maybe the older ones like being more background characters like Alf and Irene do. Ray Meagher may value his contract a lot but I always trust his opinion as he has worked on the show for 26 years so which opinion will I trust more, Ray or a mere viewer who has not watched for years.