Are the current producers ruining Home and Away?

[Jacklost]

I´m surprised this show is still going on with all the people complaining about it..

[cadyctslover]

Are we suggesting that not agreeing with us and not acting on our criticisms amounts to arrogance? Are we being arrogant in demanding that they should?

No. The arrogance lies in ignoring the fact that a significant proportion of the audience aren't interested in the Braxton's.

You don't have to then go as far as changing the whole show to suit those viewers, but failing to admit this fact in interviews, and explain that they aim to give equal share of storylines to all characters is wrong. And the real issue is that they're not trying to do that.

[demerse]

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

Got back into it for the Angela Russell story. Enjoyed it since, partly for the cartoonish whodunnits as well as the old stalwarts like Alf, Sally, Morag, Colleen.

The lead up to Sally's exit was magnificent, Milko arrival genius. Jack shooting. Summer Bay stalker. Josh West murder. Rev Hall going rogue. The Peter Baker reincarnation.

All top class.

Tony Holden was a great character. It lost something when he left.

The last of the glory days, for me anyway, was the Hugo Austin is he-isn't he saga, though he really should have got his comeuppance.

I know a lot of old fans don't really like the cartoonish plots but the thing is, they can't even do those well any more.

The recent Adam Sharpe hostage nonsense a case in point. Pedestrian half-hearted guff. The Brax court shooting another dud. Telegraphed and boring.

So now they have completely abandoned the heart and warmth of the old staples - Alf unrecognisable, irene sidelined, Roo - who was a good addition - unrecognisable from the character who arrived.

The use of language too - Alf's rants, Coleen's mangled malapropisms - all gone.

They have ignored the back stories.

And they have also lost the ability to put together a gripping cartoon caper.

It is a mess and a shambles of the most unappealing characters you could dream up.

To be fair, Brax and Heath are probably the best of what's left. But Casey and his whining and his HSC - gimme a break.

That girl who lives in the caravan park must be an all-time low.

Anyway, I could take no more about 3 months ago and bowed out. Follow a few updates on fan sites and might catch the season finale.

But they have certainly ruined it for me - maybe for different reasons to some.

[Jacklost]

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

Got back into it for the Angela Russell story. Enjoyed it since, partly for the cartoonish whodunnits as well as the old stalwarts like Alf, Sally, Morag, Colleen.

The lead up to Sally's exit was magnificent, Milko arrival genius. Jack shooting. Summer Bay stalker. Josh West murder. Rev Hall going rogue. The Peter Baker reincarnation.

All top class.

Tony Holden was a great character. It lost something when he left.

The last of the glory days, for me anyway, was the Hugo Austin is he-isn't he saga, though he really should have got his comeuppance.

I know a lot of old fans don't really like the cartoonish plots but the thing is, they can't even do those well any more.

The recent Adam Sharpe hostage nonsense a case in point. Pedestrian half-hearted guff. The Brax court shooting another dud. Telegraphed and boring.

So now they have completely abandoned the heart and warmth of the old staples - Alf unrecognisable, irene sidelined, Roo - who was a good addition - unrecognisable from the character who arrived.

The use of language too - Alf's rants, Coleen's mangled malapropisms - all gone.

They have ignored the back stories.

And they have also lost the ability to put together a gripping cartoon caper.

It is a mess and a shambles of the most unappealing characters you could dream up.

To be fair, Brax and Heath are probably the best of what's left. But Casey and his whining and his HSC - gimme a break.

That girl who lives in the caravan park must be an all-time low.

Anyway, I could take no more about 3 months ago and bowed out. Follow a few updates on fan sites and might catch the season finale.

But they have certainly ruined it for me - maybe for different reasons to some.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

[Light of the Bay]

I thought the Adam story line was a load of nonsense.

Those kind of stories (which happen too often) make the show seem like a cheap carbon copy of US cop shows and Underbelly.

[Jacklost]

I thought the Adam story line was a load of nonsense.

Those kind of stories (which happen too often) make the show seem like a cheap carbon copy of US cop shows and Underbelly.

Allot of people would disagree with that. Martin is a better actor than most of the cast that has been on the show, we need decent actors like him

[cadyctslover]

I thought the Adam story line was a load of nonsense.

Those kind of stories (which happen too often) make the show seem like a cheap carbon copy of US cop shows and Underbelly.

Allot of people would disagree with that.

You mean you would. Instead of simply disagreeing with other posters, why don't you add something to the discussion and give us some reasoning for the Adam storyline being anything other than unoriginal tosh.

Martin is a better actor than most of the cast that has been on the show, we need decent actors like him

The acting wasn't really his point though was it?

[demerse]

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

Got back into it for the Angela Russell story. Enjoyed it since, partly for the cartoonish whodunnits as well as the old stalwarts like Alf, Sally, Morag, Colleen.

The lead up to Sally's exit was magnificent, Milko arrival genius. Jack shooting. Summer Bay stalker. Josh West murder. Rev Hall going rogue. The Peter Baker reincarnation.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

I wasn't sticking strictly to the timeline there.

Yeah, Maddie I think. Anytime I stuck it on lately, she seemed to be whinging about something.

Lyne did a decent turn alright - no problem with his acting. But the plot made no sense whatsoever.

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

By cartoonish, I mean outandish, larger-than-life, silly really, if you want. But often enjoyable. Nurse Zoe and the tick tock... funny stuff. There were people in my work faxing 'tick tock' messages to each other.

The list of possible suspects for doing over Josh West. Triumphant stuff.

The day Flynn Saunders had the accident that finished him - when they ran about nine storylines together in one episode.

Outlandish stuff aside - the emotion of the good doc's death. Sally magnificent. Not a hope of reproducing something like that now.

[Jacklost]

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

Got back into it for the Angela Russell story. Enjoyed it since, partly for the cartoonish whodunnits as well as the old stalwarts like Alf, Sally, Morag, Colleen.

The lead up to Sally's exit was magnificent, Milko arrival genius. Jack shooting. Summer Bay stalker. Josh West murder. Rev Hall going rogue. The Peter Baker reincarnation.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

I wasn't sticking strictly to the timeline there.

Yeah, Maddie I think. Anytime I stuck it on lately, she seemed to be whinging about something.

Lyne did a decent turn alright - no problem with his acting. But the plot made no sense whatsoever.

Interesting thread.

I've watched H&A since first episode tho gave up for a while during the first incarnation of Gypsy. Found her and Will and the story lines then tough going.

What are you talking about? Jack was shot after Sally left and which girl that lives in the caravan park? Are yoi talking about Maddie?

Wny would the show be cartoonish? Adam storyline was far from nonsen. Martyn Lyne is a fantastic actor

By cartoonish, I mean outandish, larger-than-life, silly really, if you want. But often enjoyable. Nurse Zoe and the tick tock... funny stuff. There were people in my work faxing 'tick tock' messages to each other.

The list of possible suspects for doing over Josh West. Triumphant stuff.

The day Flynn Saunders had the accident that finished him - when they ran about nine storylines together in one episode.

Outlandish stuff aside - the emotion of the good doc's death. Sally magnificent. Not a hope of reproducing something like that now.

Maddie probably gonna change as she ages and mature on the show, allot of young characters have started out as annoying teenagers before they turned into a decent adult person that get´s married and have children

I miss the each year kill suspect time

[demerse]

Yeah, she might. She is terribly annoying though.

But she is far from the biggest problem.
Everything about it is shallow now. The way they brought in those geezers - the Mitchells is it - and we're supposed to care about the lad getting shot. Sure he'd only been in it five mins and had spent all that time moaning. Why would people care?