Blaxland 89 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Posted July 25, 2014 As the question is Has the current producers ruined Home and Away I feel comparing it to other soaps is irrelevant. Eastenders, although it goes through good and bad patches had always stuck to the root of what it is. The history still features heavily and feels like the same show. And corrie after 50 years stil has the same theme and although characters have been updated it still keep the old school fans happy. I think Home and Away has gone so far down the track now it may never go back. Along the same lines as Emmerdale. Emmerdae has little/no identity anymore and I am sure there are still some hard core Emmerdale Farm fans that disagree with the direction they decides to take the show in the 90s and it's just got further and further away. Home and Away is very close to losing its identity if it hasn't done already. It's the same only in name. Though I still live in hope. Irene even mentioned Fin in todays channel 5 episode.
Homeandawayfan. Posted July 26, 2014 Report Posted July 26, 2014 As the question is Has the current producers ruined Home and Away I feel comparing it to other soaps is irrelevant. Eastenders, although it goes through good and bad patches had always stuck to the root of what it is. The history still features heavily and feels like the same show. And corrie after 50 years stil has the same theme and although characters have been updated it still keep the old school fans happy. I think Home and Away has gone so far down the track now it may never go back. Along the same lines as Emmerdale. Emmerdae has little/no identity anymore and I am sure there are still some hard core Emmerdale Farm fans that disagree with the direction they decides to take the show in the 90s and it's just got further and further away. Home and Away is very close to losing its identity if it hasn't done already. It's the same only in name. Though I still live in hope. Irene even mentioned Fin in todays channel 5 episode. Not irrelevant at all!! This is a discussion about are the producers ruining the show and comparing it to other soaps is a point I am raising, seeing as the current team are so hell bent on moving the show away from its roots. Emmerdale Farm changed with it became Emmerdale and Crossroads did the same when Noele Gordon left and it became Crossroads Kings Oak, so Emmerdale, Crossroads and H&A are 3 soaps that have had a pretty radical change in format. And in that way I feel the producers are ruining H&A by adopting a crime ridden format.
Blaxland 89 Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Sorry. I just meant saying its all very well to say its not as violent as Eastenders is all well and good but Eastenders has always been the same. and thats what it does. I meant to say that it doesn't matter what others shows do. Home and Away should stick to what it does best. Or did do for the first 15 years or so. And thats why its losing its identity be following other shows.
Homeandawayfan. Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Sorry. I just meant saying its all very well to say its not as violent as Eastenders is all well and good but Eastenders has always been the same. and thats what it does. I meant to say that it doesn't matter what others shows do. Home and Away should stick to what it does best. Or did do for the first 15 years or so. And thats its losing its identity be following other shows. Emmerdale and H&A have adopted the EastEnders/Underbelly style I think, hence why they both are EastEnders wannabes instead of being what they are meant to be. I get your point about H&A copying other shows.
James Martin Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 But Emmerdale went through its transformation well with some excellent storylines plus the introduction of great families like the Windsors, the Glovers, the McCallisters, the Tates and, most notably, the Dingles. There was even a River Boys style Brat Pack, but they didn't dominate the show. Ironically, Home and Away was a massive influence with an influx of teens and the introduction of the holiday village on Tate land, giving the producers an excuse to have them semi naked. Things like the Plane crash had real fallout. And who can forget the Kim/Frank/Dave love triangle? And that brilliant episode where it was revealed Kim faked her death only to come back and kill Frank by causing him to have a heart attack? Forget Angie Russell, Kim Tate was and still is THE Number One Soap Bitch.
Homeandawayfan. Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 But Emmerdale went through its transformation well with some excellent storylines plus the introduction of great families like the Windsors, the Glovers, the McCallisters, the Tates and, most notably, the Dingles. There was even a River Boys style Brat Pack, but they didn't dominate the show. Ironically, Home and Away was a massive influence with an influx of teens and the introduction of the holiday village on Tate land, giving the producers an excuse to have them semi naked. Things like the Plane crash had real fallout. And who can forget the Kim/Frank/Dave love triangle? And that brilliant episode where it was revealed Kim faked her death only to come back and kill Frank by causing him to have a heart attack? Forget Angie Russell, Kim Tate was and still is THE Number One Soap Bitch. In fairness Emmerdale always did have drama even in the Farm days, days seen as sleepy when they weren't as sleepy. I think the plane crash did change the show a little but the biggest move away from its roots has been about 2011 and Emmerdale was a modern rural show from the plane crash onwards. Crossroads completely changed its format in 1986 to Kings Oak and while H&A retains its Home And Away title, it has ditched its fostering and family drama theme for thuggery and gangster storylines revolving around villains. However it may be me, but I am starting to accept that H&A is carrying on with its current format and maybe I am getting a bit used to the style, even though I dont watch the show regularly when I do see another Braxton crime or a accidental death I just think "water off a ducks back". I still think Lucy and Louise are ruining the show, to a degree anyway.
sindikatas Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Lucy and Louise and 7 network has repeatedly chosen to close their eyes before the criticism they get. Only a huge drop in Australian ratings will lead to changing the direction the show is heading.
jodlebirger Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Lucy and Louise and 7 network has repeatedly chosen to close their eyes before the criticism they get. Only a huge drop in Australian ratings will lead to changing the direction the show is heading. Yep. And the ratings are still high, very high for a show which is over 26 years old... So they are not the only ones to blame... The viewers are to blame too. People are less critical to "sloppy" storylines than they used to be. There are more competition between a lager amount of channels, and that has made writers and producers in the tv business to use cheap ways to catch the viewers attention, some more than others. And the viewers are following the most hyped storylines and series. Unfortunately. Competetion has in general lead to less quality in tv- series and programs, not only on H&A.
Homeandawayfan. Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Sometime I hope there is such a drop in ratings, it may help change the direction and even secure H&A's future in the long run, less competition, and so what if it has to rely on overseas audiences. Neighbours has the mwah factor now, good quality due to being out of the ratings war, it can do what it wants. It rates well in the UK and that helps keep it afloat. H&A is in no danger of ending anytime soon as it still rates well in Oz and I can see it reaching 30 in 3 years time and beyond.
jodlebirger Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Sometime I hope there is such a drop in ratings, it may help change the direction and even secure H&A's future in the long run, less competition, and so what if it has to rely on overseas audiences. Neighbours has the mwah factor now, good quality due to being out of the ratings war, it can do what it wants. It rates well in the UK and that helps keep it afloat. H&A is in no danger of ending anytime soon as it still rates well in Oz and I can see it reaching 30 in 3 years time and beyond. Yes, I have hoped that too. But the show did have a rating drop in 2010, but I don't think the show got much better after that... The show is to stiff, they are thinking about what is grabbing the viewers attention (no matter if it's long time characters returns or the Braxtons), rather than thinking about the storylines alone. I want more attention to the storylines, and the process of making good character development and development of storylines over time.
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