Dan F Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 On 05/02/2015 at 02:26, alexx said: ^Ailsa was mentioned last year when Alf was 'hallucinating' (?) after eating Chris' risotto. And I think she may have been mentioned in 2013 (or at least referenced when Alf was comforting John after Gina died). To be fair, they have been better at referencing past characters in the last year or so e.g. Alf's mention of Ailsa above; Irene mentioning she was going to visit Fin in the city; John and Marilyn mentioning Fisher etc. In what context did John and Marilyn mention fisher? It's when they were talking about John having taken off his wedding ring (Gina's), he said "I know how I'd feel if you still had Don Fisher's wedding ring on that finger".
Homeandawayfan. Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Recently Alf's first wife was mentioned, Roo's mum. Also in shots of Summer Bay High, I have seen a signpost to "The Donald Fisher Hall", nice touch to a legend. I do finally see some hope for H&A now, it will have a long way to go and will never be perfect but as said, regarding Brax (may be spoilerish to some who dont yet know), and the exterior of Summer Bay House is returning and Dan Bennett looking to have taken over from Louise Bowes. If Louise has left the show then I wont miss her. Underbelly would be her sort of show to work on, a proper crime show, not H&A. Neighbours has improved but is still problematic in places. Regarding Des Monaghan, I think he is still alive and working in TV. He is about 75 now. He was EP from late 1988 to 1992.
CaptainHulk Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 ^ He chose the right time to ride off into the sunset and Andrew Howie was the perfect successor.
Light of the Bay Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Dan Bennett learned the ropes working under Coral Drouyn and Bevan Lee so that gives me hope. However, I immediately noticed a change from the 2004 finale and the start of the 2005 season. That's when the show really changed direction and it's never recovered. 2005 was still good on the whole though but 2006 has got to be one of the worst years ever and I noticed an improvement in 2007 which ironically is when Dan stepped down.
adam436 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 On 05/02/2015 at 20:02, Light of the Bay said: Dan Bennett learned the ropes working under Coral Drouyn and Bevan Lee so that gives me hope. However, I immediately noticed a change from the 2004 finale and the start of the 2005 season. That's when the show really changed direction and it's never recovered. 2005 was still good on the whole though but 2006 has got to be one of the worst years ever and I noticed an improvement in 2007 which ironically is when Dan stepped down. I honestly can't remember how 2004 even finished other than Vinnie returning as a bear and Dani leaving. Surely there must have been a big cliffhanger though I'd have to agree though - after being a loyal viewer since 1996ish (and the early years til around the Pippa swap), I gave up not long after the Holdens arrived which was around this time and didn't really bother to watch it again. I have tuned in for a week or two on a few occasions over the years (around the times of Flynn's death, Sally's exit, Marilyn's return and Georgie Parker's debut), but it didn't really hooked me like it used to.
Dan F Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 On 05/02/2015 at 20:14, adam436 said: Dan Bennett learned the ropes working under Coral Drouyn and Bevan Lee so that gives me hope. However, I immediately noticed a change from the 2004 finale and the start of the 2005 season. That's when the show really changed direction and it's never recovered. 2005 was still good on the whole though but 2006 has got to be one of the worst years ever and I noticed an improvement in 2007 which ironically is when Dan stepped down. I honestly can't remember how 2004 even finished other than Vinnie returning as a bear and Dani leaving. Surely there must have been a big cliffhanger though The 2004 finale was the last ep of Bevan's tenure and he wanted a 'feelgood' finale like they had in the earlier years of the show. This is what he told BTTB at the time: The 2004 Cliffhanger is gentle, warm, uplifting and low key this year. I felt, like a lot of you, that we did not need another life and death style cliffhanger. Especially having had the Sarah Rampage Olympics cliffhanger just a few months before. I felt the show did risk going OTT if we cranked up to another one of those. The end of year this year is designed to say, despite the fact it's an increasingly grim world these days, isn't it great to be alive! The main focus of the ep was the opening of Noah's Bar and Pippa's Christening, with Paulini performing at both. And it ended with a great montage of "happiness reigning throughout Summer Bay". The last shot was Noah's ghost returning one final time to kiss a sleeping Hayley.
John Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Ah memories Dan. I do remember that finale. Bevan was right the finale did provide a great antidote to the mayhem that preceded it in the year before.
Jezz Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 The 2004 season finale was definitely one of the best episodes I've seen and it concluded the year very well after the hectic year that 2004 was. I've even heard some people say in hindsight that the show should have stopped then and never continued after that! Interesting hearing that but I couldn't see a show that was easily raking in 1,000,000 million viewers a night stopping all of a sudden at the time. The 2005 season premiere started six weeks after the events of the 2004 finale and then that's when the mayhem and chaos of the Stalker storyline truly began with the bushfire storyline being the first sign of the Stalker's appearance even though viewers weren't aware of the stalker being involved in the bushfires that occurred in the town.
adam436 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 On 06/02/2015 at 07:11, Jezz said: The 2004 season finale was definitely one of the best episodes I've seen and it concluded the year very well after the hectic year that 2004 was. I've even heard some people say in hindsight that the show should have stopped then and never continued after that! Interesting hearing that but I couldn't see a show that was easily raking in 1,000,000 million viewers a night stopping all of a sudden at the time. Sally and Flynn had just moved into Summer Bay House and (I think!) had just agreed to foster Ric, so ending things there would have been a brilliant. It would have been like the show had come full circle
Homeandawayfan. Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 I think if Dan Bennett was around when Sally returned in 2013, then her disastrous return may have been written better. I dont think H&A should have ended after the 2004 season finale. It was a popular show and a happy ending to a season does not always mean the show should have ended then, should we say that Neighbours should have ended when Scott and Charlene married? 2001-2010 was my non viewing phase, (work schedule so I drifted apart from the shows) same with Neighbours so the Noughties eras of both shows is my weak spot in terms of knowledge. I do hope Dan has returned to the show, he was no means perfect but I am sure was better at script editing and giving characters more equal stories. Yes the current direction may work well, but write it better and make it watchable.
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