Are the current producers ruining Home and Away?

[Homeandawayfan.]

If Lucy Addario and Louise Bowes read this thread, they would probably think "What dont you like drugs, stalkers and guns and car crashes? Well it is what most of the viewers want so we see no reason to stop and we add thriller style screechy dramatic background music to add to this".

[dee123]

If Lucy Addario and Louise Bowes read this thread, they would probably think "What dont you like drugs, stalkers and guns and car crashes? Well it is what most of the viewers want so we see no reason to stop and we add thriller style screechy dramatic background music to add to this".

I doubt they slum it here. Sometimes we have an opinion that doesn't match up with theirs. I'm sure they keep to their sycophantic lap dogs on twitter and the like.

You can tell i really don't like them, can't you?

[pembie]

If Lucy Addario and Louise Bowes read this thread, they would probably think "What dont you like drugs, stalkers and guns and car crashes? Well it is what most of the viewers want so we see no reason to stop and we add thriller style screechy dramatic background music to add to this".

To be honest I have enjoyed the Braxtons stories when they were more of a family unit when Heath and Casey were around But now with what feels like the Braxtons add ons like Ricky Ash, Denny and even Kyle and Pheobe But I do like them together I'm not sure I will when they break up. Kyle will go back to being pointless and Pheobe will go annoying I think. I think they do need to move on now. Hopefully when Brax goes they will. Crime is fine in soaps but they need to think of alot more other stories so the same type of characters aren't overused and become boring

[CaptainHulk]

Gotta Disagree, Red.

The River Boy era was still in full swing at that point. Okay, they were toned down but still got into more of the same messes.

[joany208121]

Some of us older fans have been accused of "blowing our own trumpets" when we say we have watched the show for 20 years or more compared to people who have only watched for 4 or 5 years. I know people who were not born when the show started can watch reruns but there are probably many 10-20 year olds who dont have a clue who Neville McPhee is or Damo Roberts, Shane Parrish, Emma Jackson, Carly Morris is etc.

I completely agree, and I'm so sick of people saying "Belles death was the best" or "Indi and Romeo" are the best couple ever, when they have watched the show for 4 or 5 years. I myself am 17, and started avidly watching around 2003, after watching on and off for a while. but as a fan I have watched (all early years and youtube) and researched all of the history of the show, so I know as much about the show as I can. It's frustrating to me when people claim that something is the "best ever" with only a limited knowledge.

[Homeandawayfan.]

In England while the show is still very cloak and dagger, I do feel a gradual improvement. Not out of the woods by a long way but I am optimistic about my fave Aussie show. At the end of the day if I had to choose H&A or Neighbours I would probably choose H&A due to it being much better from 1988-2009ish. In the 1990s I only watched Neighbours sporadically as it was totally whipped by H&A.

One good thing about Lucy is she is not retconning the history of the show or bringing in endless forced refs to the past and possibly the refs not tallying with the original storyline or backstory. In Neighbours these refs have increased but there are some inaccuracies as a result. Lucy Robinson saying she barely knew her mother when her mum died in childbirth and she would not have known her at all.

[Gerard]

It's frustrating to me when people claim that something is the "best ever" with only a limited knowledge.

That's a fair point. I would have thought that many people who liked the River Boys era over any other probably started watching within the past 5 years. I would hazard a guess that people who would want to relive the Sutherlands started watching around 2000, and those of us who wish Pippa was back were watching in the '80s and '90s. I, and I'm sure plenty of others here, have watched H&A since it began, so when we talk about the series being good or bad, are drawing on nearly 30 years of history, but that doesn't mean that those who have watched for only a few years don't have as valid an opinion. But there has to be some kind of middle ground general concensus of the overall success of H&A.

From this topic and various others, you could draw the conclusion that H&A is a shadow of its former self, and that opinion seems to be shared on other forums too, but it's entirely possible that most current H&A viewers love the River Boys, and it's the rest of us who are out of step.

ETA:

One good thing about Lucy is she is not retconning the history of the show or bringing in endless forced refs to the past and possibly the refs not tallying with the original storyline or backstory. In Neighbours these refs have increased but there are some inaccuracies as a result. Lucy Robinson saying she barely knew her mother when her mum died in childbirth and she would not have known her at all.

References are good and bad. They have to be accurate, and are rewarding to long term viewers when done properly. I noticed the Lucy Robinson "slip" myself, which was disappointing as I thought they have been pretty good with long-term continuity recently. Anyway H&A has always been very good with continuity, but I do recall one glaring slip once, when Don Fisher announced he was an "only child" - this is despite his sister Mary being in the series for weeks, and his niece Lucinda being a main character (also his nephew played by Guy Pearce). Hardly a forgotten "minor detail", but I guess the occasional slip-up is inevitable.

[Homeandawayfan.]

It's frustrating to me when people claim that something is the "best ever" with only a limited knowledge.

That's a fair point. I would have thought that many people who liked the River Boys era over any other probably started watching within the past 5 years. I would hazard a guess that people who would want to relive the Sutherlands started watching around 2000, and those of us who wish Pippa was back were watching in the '80s and '90s. I, and I'm sure plenty of other here, have watched H&A since it began, so when we talk about the series being good or bad, are drawning on nearly 30 years of history, but that doesn't mean that those who have watched for only a few years don't have as valid an opinion. But there has to be some kind of middle ground general concensus of the overall success of H&A.

From this topic and various others, you could draw the conclusion that H&A is a shadow of its former self, and that opinion seems to be shared on other forums too, but it's entirely possible that most current H&A viewers love the River Boys, and it's the rest of us who are out of step.

ETA:

One good thing about Lucy is she is not retconning the history of the show or bringing in endless forced refs to the past and possibly the refs not tallying with the original storyline or backstory. In Neighbours these refs have increased but there are some inaccuracies as a result. Lucy Robinson saying she barely knew her mother when her mum died in childbirth and she would not have known her at all.

References are good and bad. They have to be accurate, and are rewarding to long term viewers when done properly. I noticed the Lucy Robinson "slip" myself, which was disappointing as I thought they have been pretty good with long-term continuity recently. Anyway H&A has always been very good with continuity, but I do recall one glaring slip once, when Don Fisher announced he was an "only child" - this is despite his sister Mary being in the series for weeks, and his niece Lucinda being a main character (also his nephew played by Guy Pearce). Hardly a forgotten "minor detail", but I guess the occasional slip-up is inevitable.

That thing about Don being an only child is a major continuity error then, he had a brother Clive in 1988 and his sister Mary Croft nee Fisher and his niece and nephew.

[kmp1963]

I haven't watched the show for 20 something years but I do resent the suggestions that I am therefore LESS of a fan

I watched religiously for several years prior to the arrival of the Braxtons. The changes their arrival brought with them turned me from an addicted fan to a very angry one.

The last three seasons I have watched only occasionally and most of the time I found myself snarling at the screen. Not really conducive to enjoyment.

However my former love for the show, brought me back this season after hearing and reading of all the changes both onscreen and behind the scenes.

At this point however I am not sure if I will continue watching. The quality of both characters and scripts is (in my opinion) still sadly lacking.

Continuity is also poor, but I think that is a longtime problem not just a recent one.

[c120701]

The continuity of the continuity is good on soaps, they're fairly consistent at getting things wrong.