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honestly, Ricki apparently works right!? Can't say I remember what she even does as you never see her there LOL!

 

​Doesn't she work at Angelo's?

Yes and as part owner of the Gym and Angelo's she can probably sit back and live off the profits. I think we've just seen her there less due to the pregnancy

I thought she was a photographer, but she has really only photographed brax. 

 maybe she could photograph some parties or weddings or formals or surf carnivals, as some formal event seem to be happening every week.

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Honestly if the show is to continue then the following needs to start happening:

 

No introduction of characters just to add plot points to someone's story. 

No focus on one set of characters at the expense of others or decent storytelling.

Removal of hastily introduced characters. 

No hooking up characters because you can't think what else to do with them. 

And how about giving people jobs outside of Summer Bay.  You don't have to show external sets all the time but seriously a town that small supporting just about everyone with a handful of businesses?  Hey, what do you want to do when you leave school? Oh, I've always wanted to work in Alf's bait shop, how about you?  Me, I've my eye on working in the diner for the next forty years.  

 

 

​Yep...... totally agree about the job thing; I have wanted to see more of that too. I remember when we had other places such as when Josh was in council, Ric was in the car garage, Belle had a job as a journalist and you routinely seen them all there, now you don't see any of that - it's either go work at the diner, gym, Angelos, Bait Shop or the hospital lol....... honestly, Ricki apparently works right!? Can't say I remember what she even does as you never see her there LOL!

Since Dan Bennett has taken over can't say I have noticed much change as of yet, but it's early days and I guess he has a big mess to cleanup that has been left in his lap; but the addition of more love triangles isn't a good start.

I totally agree with this. On the subject of the hospital, in recent years they always seem to given the impression it's either in Summer or right on the outskirts. However right from the start it was always Northern Districts Hospital in Yabbie  Creek. They need to keep on track with the continuity of such locations. Katarina works at the police station which I presume is still in Yabbie Creek. 

Recently, we saw Hannah and co. watching Phoebe perform a gig at Reefton Lakes. Maybe someone could have a part time job there:). There was often talk of a pub in the early years. It would be good as Angelo's is a bar/restaurant and a pub would be a nice informal place for nights out. Also a convenience store would be good again:)

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 honestly, Ricki apparently works right!? Can't say I remember what she even does as you never see her there LOL!

 

​Doesn't she work at Angelo's?

​Ahh that's right lol....... just really haven't seen her there in quite awhile I guess so I forgot.

 

Honestly if the show is to continue then the following needs to start happening:

 

No introduction of characters just to add plot points to someone's story. 

No focus on one set of characters at the expense of others or decent storytelling.

Removal of hastily introduced characters. 

No hooking up characters because you can't think what else to do with them. 

And how about giving people jobs outside of Summer Bay.  You don't have to show external sets all the time but seriously a town that small supporting just about everyone with a handful of businesses?  Hey, what do you want to do when you leave school? Oh, I've always wanted to work in Alf's bait shop, how about you?  Me, I've my eye on working in the diner for the next forty years.  

 

 

​Yep...... totally agree about the job thing; I have wanted to see more of that too. I remember when we had other places such as when Josh was in council, Ric was in the car garage, Belle had a job as a journalist and you routinely seen them all there, now you don't see any of that - it's either go work at the diner, gym, Angelos, Bait Shop or the hospital lol....... honestly, Ricki apparently works right!? Can't say I remember what she even does as you never see her there LOL!

Since Dan Bennett has taken over can't say I have noticed much change as of yet, but it's early days and I guess he has a big mess to cleanup that has been left in his lap; but the addition of more love triangles isn't a good start.

Katarina works at the police station which I presume is still in Yabbie Creek.

Not that you'd know, you hardly ever see her in uniform / at work. Most of her storylines revolve around her annoying relationship with Nate.

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Yep, The Police Station and Hospital are in Yabbie Creek.

The joke is back in the day had to get the Bus/Drive to Yabbie Creek but now it's like 10 minutes walk! 

(Most be the continental shift after the 2008 aftershocks from the 1996 Earthquake)

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Yep, The Police Station and Hospital are in Yabbie Creek.

The joke is back in the day had to get the Bus/Drive to Yabbie Creek but now it's like 10 minutes walk! 

(Most be the continental shift after the 2008 aftershocks from the 1996 Earthquake)

Yes we've scene the likes of April & Dex and Hannah & Nate etc having their break at the beach or at the diner rather than the hospital canteen...quite a lot :)

 

Honestly if the show is to continue then the following needs to start happening:

 

No introduction of characters just to add plot points to someone's story. 

No focus on one set of characters at the expense of others or decent storytelling.

Removal of hastily introduced characters. 

No hooking up characters because you can't think what else to do with them. 

And how about giving people jobs outside of Summer Bay.  You don't have to show external sets all the time but seriously a town that small supporting just about everyone with a handful of businesses?  Hey, what do you want to do when you leave school? Oh, I've always wanted to work in Alf's bait shop, how about you?  Me, I've my eye on working in the diner for the next forty years.  

 

 

​Yep...... totally agree about the job thing; I have wanted to see more of that too. I remember when we had other places such as when Josh was in council, Ric was in the car garage, Belle had a job as a journalist and you routinely seen them all there, now you don't see any of that - it's either go work at the diner, gym, Angelos, Bait Shop or the hospital lol....... honestly, Ricki apparently works right!? Can't say I remember what she even does as you never see her there LOL!

Since Dan Bennett has taken over can't say I have noticed much change as of yet, but it's early days and I guess he has a big mess to cleanup that has been left in his lap; but the addition of more love triangles isn't a good start.

Katarina works at the police station which I presume is still in Yabbie Creek.

Not that you'd know, you hardly ever see her in uniform / at work. Most of her storylines revolve around her annoying relationship with Nate.

And when she is at work/in uniform it would be nice (for the sake of continuity) to see her doing more routine work rather than dealing with 'big' crimes all the time. Also, as much as I like Nate, it's quite often becoming a case of ''Call Nate'' instead of "Call an ambulance".

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Ricky did work as a photographer but it was freelance rather than a steady job.Now she's co-owner of the Braxton Empire I guess she doesn't need the work.

The geography of Summer Bay has always been notoriously fluid.Sometimes the hospital is a car drive away, sometimes it's walking distance.Even back in the 90s, you seemed to have teens showing up there as if it was round the corner from school.

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Right from Jan 1988 they have belted out 5 episodes a week most weeks of the year. I think Neighbours and H&A helped their UK counterparts Corrie and EE in becoming more youth orientated and having more weekly episodes. N and H&A I feel did give CS and EE a bit of a kick up the bum. H&A and continuity has never been very good, ever since Celia said that Roo is her only niece, and magically she gained a new one a few months later. The geography of the village as Red said has never been consistent. Alison, Stevo, Bobby and Cary magically were at school one minute, then on a 3 hour lunch break down the beach another minute then back at school seemingly just 2 minutes later. Sometimes the Summer Bay House has been said to be a bus ride away from the beach and other times just a 300 yard walk. In 1988 Floss had to get the bus from the beach to SBH when pretending to have run from there to SBH.

I am still watching sporadically but to see another Braxton storyline is water off a ducks back now and I am noticing the crime element of the show starting to ebb away. I am watching more regularly and it shows my loyalty to H&A to keep sticking by it even just as a casual viewer.

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Also, as much as I like Nate, it's quite often becoming a case of ''Call Nate'' instead of "Call an ambulance".

Yeah, I pointed this out in a thread I made here recently, but no-one replied to it lol

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I agree that H&A and Neighbours really changed the soap opera landscape in the UK. I'm sure there are lots of storyline continuity slip-ups across all the soaps. I guess at the time things are not noted down as it is never anticipated they will be important again. E.g. some throwaway comments by a guest character, who becomes permanent in later years, which contradicts the continuity. I'm sure all long-running series suffer from it, but these days with computer databases and episode archives, it should only take a matter of a few seconds to see if a character has any obscure siblings or been through an experience before. H&A has had some major slip-ups over the years, but generally it hasn't been too bad.

The geography of H&A is a bit bizarre, but in the early days there was a map of Summer Bay (probably still around the web), but they do seem to make it up as they go along. Summer Bay House only seemed like a stone's throw from the beach when the series began, but it feels more distant now. Summer Bay also seemed like a small rural town stuck in the 1960's when H&A started, and over the years seems to have become a large urban town (even though the same 15 characters from all parts of town seem to know each other on a first name only basis).

I also do wonder how it seems they can get up, get ready, go to the beach for a surf, hang around in the Diner and Surf Club, all before school starts. Are they getting up at 5am? Anyway, it will be interesting to see what replaces the gap left by the Braxtons. I suspect if the crime aspect goes away and viewing figures fall, it won't be long before we have another Sarah Lewis in the Bay.

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I agree that H&A and Neighbours really changed the soap opera landscape in the UK. I'm sure there are lots of storyline continuity slip-ups across all the soaps. I guess at the time things are not noted down as it is never anticipated they will be important again. E.g. some throwaway comments by a guest character, who becomes permanent in later years, which contradicts the continuity. I'm sure all long-running series suffer from it, but these days with computer databases and episode archives, it should only take a matter of a few seconds to see if a character has any obscure siblings or been through an experience before. H&A has had some major slip-ups over the years, but generally it hasn't been too bad.

The geography of H&A is a bit bizarre, but in the early days there was a map of Summer Bay (probably still around the web), but they do seem to make it up as they go along. Summer Bay House only seemed like a stone's throw from the beach when the series began, but it feels more distant now. Summer Bay also seemed like a small rural town stuck in the 1960's when H&A started, and over the years seems to have become a large urban town (even though the same 15 characters from all parts of town seem to know each other on a first name only basis).

I also do wonder how it seems they can get up, get ready, go to the beach for a surf, hang around in the Diner and Surf Club, all before school starts. Are they getting up at 5am? Anyway, it will be interesting to see what replaces the gap left by the Braxtons. I suspect if the crime aspect goes away and viewing figures fall, it won't be long before we have another Sarah Lewis in the Bay.

​As I said when H&A began the setting was a bit dated but the show focused on modern teens such as Narelle the stripper, the catfights at the school and mischievous teens. The classroom settings were really good as well as just the Fletcher dining room table. Also the locations were sprawling beaches and hills rather than just a cul de sac and Lassiters complex nearby.

H&A is better at the occasional crime story or stalker, nutter, Walt Bertram, Robert Perez, Sarah Lewis etc. The Braxtons have just increased that but with drug wars, kidnappings and shootings. I am not totally against them but it is the way they are written. I dont think Dan Bennett is a Messiah but I am sure he will improve the show. I did hear Bevan Lee praised him once about him knowing the show inside out.

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