1995 Episode Discussion

[matty]

11 hours ago, CaptainHulk said:

In her defence, Paul was absent for a year (went O/S/Gap year/whatever) and Mrs Harris was running the show.

You mean unlike Angel who was absent ever since he was born?

[Old H&A Fan]

5 hours ago, Natasha said:

I've been living under a rock but just noticed that 7Plus are now airing TEY episodes! How long has this been going on?? Now I don't have to worry about my PVR radomly not recording episodes. 

Don't get too excited. PLUS7 only keeps the episodes up for 14 days, before they "expire". I'd keep that PVR if I were you

[beau_t]

9 hours ago, Natasha said:

I've been living under a rock but just noticed that 7Plus are now airing TEY episodes! How long has this been going on?? Now I don't have to worry about my PVR radomly not recording episodes. 

A while, but the adverts are a pain the butt. I don't know if anyone else has problems with the player constantly crashing, and then you have to keep rewatching the adverts that you already watched before you can get to the bit you were at before. You're definitely better sticking with your PVR as much as possible!

Monday's episode...

It seems like Travis finally got through to Curtis, to be honest having a chat with him that Ailsa should have had weeks ago. I found the scene where he and Ailsa patched things up rather cold to be honest. She really doesn't seem to care much about what he's gone through, even comparing it to her own "hard time" that she's had lately which if I was Curtis I would have found really insulting.

Ahhh, the Andrew/Donna storyline reaches that pivotal moment we all knew was coming. I have to say the music in that scene was excellent, really added to the tension and seemed to reflect the build up of Andrew's anger. Both actors played the scene really well.

[Natasha]

5 hours ago, Old H&A Fan said:

Don't get too excited. PLUS7 only keeps the episodes up for 14 days, before they "expire". I'd keep that PVR if I were you

Don't worry I'll be keeping my PVR for now

Fisher backs down and gives Shane and Angel the loan despite them treating him like dirt. 

Glad Curtis is turning a corner and Sally is doing well at school. And knew Andrew hasn't changed. Could see him lashing out at Donna a mile off. Once a woman basher, always a woman basher. These scumbags never change.

[Blaxland 89]

5 hours ago, beau_t said:

A while, but the adverts are a pain the butt. I don't know if anyone else has problems with the player constantly crashing, and then you have to keep rewatching the adverts that you already watched before you can get to the bit you were at before. You're definitely better sticking with your PVR as much as possible!

Monday's episode...

It seems like Travis finally got through to Curtis, to be honest having a chat with him that Ailsa should have had weeks ago. I found the scene where he and Ailsa patched things up rather cold to be honest. She really doesn't seem to care much about what he's gone through, even comparing it to her own "hard time" that she's had lately which if I was Curtis I would have found really insulting.

Ahhh, the Andrew/Donna storyline reaches that pivotal moment we all knew was coming. I have to say the music in that scene was excellent, really added to the tension and seemed to reflect the build up of Andrew's anger. Both actors played the scene really well.

I don't think Ailsa has dealt with losing Bobby at all still. I know it's not been spelt out or anything but as many of us know what's coming up this could well be the start of the way Ailsa is feeling. If Bobby had been around she's have a lot less stress in the diner to worry about her best mate Bobby would probably be better at talking to Curtis too. 

I really don't think Ailsa ever got over Bobby. Even when the diner burnt down Ailsa brought up it was her and Bobby that started it and now that's gone too. 

 

[Old H&A Fan]

50 minutes ago, Natasha said:

Don't worry I'll be keeping my PVR for now

Fisher backs down and gives Shane and Angel the loan despite them treating him like dirt. 

Glad Curtis is turning a corner and Sally is doing well at school. And knew Andrew hasn't changed. Could see him lashing out at Donna a mile off. Once a woman basher, always a woman basher. These scumbags never change.

What, so you're saying people don't make mistakes? Once you've made a mistake, you'll always keep making the same mistakes again and again no matter how much you want to change? Give the dog a bad name and it stinks for the rest of its life, no matter what? And are you suggesting it's OK for Donna to have a fling with Rob (they really were going to have a relationship anyway) I mean what was he doing at Andrew's flat with her? She told Andrew she can move the furniture herself, he didn't need his help, then she snuck Rob into his flat. Also, why doesn't Andrew beat the Christ out of Rob, because it's half his fault he and Donna were playng these games. Why is it that some people think "once a scumbag always a scumbag" I mean what's the point of rehabilitation?

[Skylover]

1 hour ago, Old H&A Fan said:

Why is it that some people think "once a scumbag always a scumbag" I mean what's the point of rehabilitation?

A leopard never changes its spots. I'm a terrible person and will probably always be a terrible person.

Haha, not really. I guess some people change, others don't, it's a shame for Donna's sake if Andrew doesn't change.

[CaptainHulk]

8 hours ago, matty said:

You mean unlike Angel who was absent ever since he was born?

You know her sitch; She was in a bad position When she had him. 14, a-hole parents by all accounts, limited options. Paulie Boy and Old Bag Harris were the best choice; at least Dylan would grow up knowing at least who ONE parent was. It was Either that or flat out give Dylan up for adoption.

 

[c120701]

3 hours ago, Blaxland 89 said:

I don't think Ailsa has dealt with losing Bobby at all still. I know it not been spelt out are anything but as many of us know what's coming up this could well be the start of the way Ailsa is feeling. If Bobby had been around she's have a lot less stress in the diner to worry about her best mate Bobby would probably at emphasising with Curtis too. 

I really don't think Ailsa ever got over Bobby. Even when the diner burnt down Ailsa brought up it was her and Bobby that started it and now that's gone too. 

 

I think that's a really interesting way of looking at things - Bobby was always brought up when Ailsa went through hard times.

[Red Ranger 1]

So, yep, caught up on today's episode.Yes, that was an extremely underwhelming "reconciliation" between Ailsa and Curtis.While Ailsa does seem to be on the brink and perhaps just doesn't have enough time or energy to devote the attention to Curtis that he needs, you'd expect her to show at least some warmth towards him.Perhaps it needed to be Travis who had that chat with him, I'm not sure that Ailsa having it would have worked, whereas the big brother vibe from Travis got through his defences.

I have found Don's behaviour towards Shane and Angel somewhat childish: This whole thing seems to have stemmed from jealousy that they had Michael and Pippa for dinner, which is even more absurd when you consider that they had him over (slightly involuntarily although they did their best to hide it) their first night there.That said, I thought it was a bit rich for Shane to press the issue with the money and even more so for Ailsa to do the same...but ultimately he decides he wants to be there for them.

I see the show's taking steps to remove Rob from the ensemble, with the mention of him moving out of Irene's place and the fact he's soon going to be the only regular working at the boat shed, removing his obvious points of contact.

Ah, Andrew. Maybe it's simplistic to say that people can't change...but the fact is he hasn't changed.He probably wanted to, he probably thought he had, but sometimes it takes more than wanting.Sadly, he seems to be psychologically incapable of having a loving relationship.He thinks it means having Donna all to himself and that she shouldn't do anything except what pleases him, that she not only shouldn't have but shouldn't want a life and friends outside of their relationship.And if she does...well, that means she must be cheating, right?Rob and Donna did nothing to provoke his fury, except maybe being a bit overly tactile, but he's convinced she's lying so that means it's all her fault.