Old H&A Fan Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 Of course it's real, Old H&A Fan. I dunno Edward Skylover. It takes one hell of a gamble for a life-long decision like living in each other's pockets for the rest of your lives after one or 2 blind dates, to work out. Too far-fetched if you ask me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylover Posted October 12, 2016 Report Share Posted October 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Old H&A Fan said: I dunno Edward Skylover. It takes one hell of a gamble for a life-long decision like living in each other's pockets for the rest of your lives after one or 2 blind dates, to work out. Too far-fetched if you ask me I've never been the relationship type so I can't really give an unbiased view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ranger 1 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 I'm also now belatedly up to 1725: I was away last weekend, it slowed me down.So that's Donna gone for good.I'm struggling to work out the point of pairing her and Travis.A rather desperate attempt to give her a happy ending? If so, it didn't work, since he comes back without her. Bit more forward planning and they could have had her and Rob leave together.The overall feeling is of the show having plans for Donna that got rapidly truncated:Witness the way Gus turns up, causes trouble and then leaves without anything really being resolved. The treatment of Shannon shows up the dark side of Summer Bay, the way they're very quick to turn on someone.Watching a grown man like Don do his best to make an already insecure teenage girl feel as small as possible makes for uncomfortable viewing.Yes, Shannon did the wrong thing, but at the end of the day it was a silly schoolgirl crush that she took too far, and it should have been dismissed by everyone.In fact, Shane seems to be pretty much over it.The plane crash seems to have muddied things a bit but that was down to Angel building it up into more than it was. By my calculations, Angel saving Shannon is next week.It doesn't solve the bad blood between them by any means but it does at least require Angel to treat Shannon like a human being. It was a smart, if slightly unsubtle, move to have Shannon show her sweet side with Maja in between, and the bond between Maja and Michael continues to be compelling.And no, that clearly wasn't Jesse McGregor: Wrong age, wrong accent, wrong back story, since when Shannon meets Jesse she's clearly never clapped eyes on him before.He's as much Jesse as Shane is that Mangrove River kid, or Max Richards is Les Smart. We can't be too far off Don's house burning down, since Chloe's the indirect catalyst for all that, so I guess they're phasing it out. Oh yes, the arrival of Chloe.Didn't realise she was next but I probably should have done.I'll try and ignore the fact she ends up begetting probably the second worst current character.During Channel 5's repeat run, I felt that Kristy Wright seemed a weak link well into 1996, so it's a shame she's got a lot of huge storylines coming up.She was okay in the chatterbox scenes but a bit bland elsewhere.And yes, she's basically another Selina, meant to have been there all along, we've just never seen her.And taking an age to be added to the opening titles:She'll have to wait until the next complete revamp, which must be nearly a year away.Anyway, I'm left thinking the ITV edit improved things, because Max's G-rated racist rant, trying to see how many cliches he could fit into 30 seconds, was kind of shocking but also kind of silly.But then even at the time, Jack being targeted for racism seemed silly because he appears to be the same race as everyone else on the show.I mean, I've no idea what racial origin Daniel Amalm is and maybe I'm just showing my ignorance, but he doesn't even seem to be "off-white", look at him and Curtis together and their skin tone seems identical, and you have to look really really hard to see even a hint of "otherness".So it's hard not to feel like the show just made up the fact he was half-Lebanese on the spot to hide the fact they've got no real ethnics.Even Chloe looks as if she hadn't realised. I've said before that despite this teen group being well-remembered and long lasting (most of them are still there in 1997), they never really produced an equivalent of Shane and Angel, instead they seemed to try out pretty much every possible combination.Curtis and Selina are among the worst offenders, I make it six partners each.(Jack I think has slightly less-he's the first to leave but then he was the first to join except Sal, Shannon about the same, Chloe slightly more but then she sticks around a while, Sally don't even go there but then she did have 20 years to get through them.)I quite liked the way they got together and they have had some sweet moments but they do manage to be rather bland at times.That scene of Curtis and Nelson on the beach stuck in my head, although I didn't remember it quite right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylover Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 5 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said: Jack being targeted for racism seemed silly because he appears to be the same race as everyone else on the show.I mean, I've no idea what racial origin Daniel Amalm is and maybe I'm just showing my ignorance, but he doesn't even seem to be "off-white", look at him and Curtis together and their skin tone seems identical, and you have to look really really hard to see even a hint of "otherness".So it's hard not to feel like the show just made up the fact he was half-Lebanese on the spot to hide the fact they've got no real ethnics.Even Chloe looks as if she hadn't realised. Jack definitely looks exotic to me, which is part of the reason why I like him But I agree it's quite subtle, he definitely doesn't look mixed enough that any racism would likely occur but then I suppose that's partly the point of the story. I loved the fact he was called a wog, I thought it was completely shocking, that would never happen on TV in this day and age, I'm surprised 7Two didn't edit it out, poor Jack Racism really makes me angry so I'm looking forward to this storyline, Jack and Chloe make a beautiful couple shame I know from spoilers that it doesn't go anywhere . It does seem strange that no Shangel emerge from this group, perhaps the writers wanted to experiment this time after being so clear in their direction with Shane and Angel? I'm not sure, but I certainly think Curtis and Selia are the worst combination so far, positively dull. I'd definitely take Curtis and Laura, Shannon and Curtis, or Jack and Selina over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHulk Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 it was kind of Annoying how Gus never copped for his crimes bar Jack's punch. And If Donna did leave w/ Rob instead, she'd have contracted Matt disease too and they'd have acted like she was around off screen for the next 4.5yrs. ? Anyhow, wasn't Dieter a Summer Bay kid in a previous go-around in 1991? Also Richard "The Prosecutor" Sydenham has had about 50 character name changes on this show in more modern times despite playing pretty much the same bloke! ? I say Kristy comes into her own into the back half of her lifespan as a regular on the show. Summer Bay at its best is a tight-knit community, at its worst it's a judgmental backwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dncllpyk Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Spoiler Colleens ex husband in 2000 Not liking Donald at the moment. He is a lot like how he was at the beginning when the show first started and he was an enemy of the Fletchers. I hope nice Donald comes back soon. In Alfs defence i think him punching Donald was self defense as Fisher did push Alf first. I don't like Chloes father he is racist. Just wondering is it the same actor who played spoiler up the top Maya has gone now. Michael told she could come back and visit when she is older. Which is sad since Spoiler He dies the following year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ranger 1 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Yes, it's the same actor.Dieter Brummer previously played one of the new SBH students from Mangrove River, during the long-forgotten merger that introduced Lois Crawford. I did mean to say that the storyline with Jack does possibly underline the arbitrariness of racism, that someone who looks the same as everyone else gets subjected to prejudice.It just seems a bit too arbitrary at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old H&A Fan Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Is it just me imagining it or does Cloe's father look and sound like Colleen Powell's husband Patrick in Prisoner? I could be wrong, like I was told I was wrong when I said Theresa Lynch sounded and had some other resemblance to Jacki Nolan (aka Sarah Forrest) in Prisoner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHulk Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Xenia Natalenko does return in 2001 but as a different character during The Woody vs YR12 siege . I know what its like to be discriminated against but I'm glad I grew up in the 90s instead of the 60s where LBH, That kind of bulls*** was considered "acceptable" and "certain people had to know their place". Like F*** it was and Like F*** they did . As I said before there's still people who live in those dark ages mentally. Daniel Amalm has varying Ethnic roots as he confirmed one magazine, some Asian, some European. During the three episodes he returns in during 2000 he begins speaking with bit more of an accent. Back to Gus, He was basically little more then a plot device for A) Getting rid of Donna B) Giving Sal something to do to break her out of the goody-two-shoes rut she's normally stuck in. With this teen relationship merry-go-round, I'm surprised They're not all in the Queue outside Northern Districts STD/I clinic or the girls coming after Curtis for Child support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylover Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Do Jack and Shannon ever get together? As I can't think of many other variants, though I suppose they are siblings kind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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