2018 Season - UK Episode Discussion

[Red Ranger 1]

2 hours ago, chair said:

Is it possible Brody and Mason shared a room when they both lived at the Morgan house?

I'd say it's...unlikely. It does appear there's five bedrooms in what seems to be a relatively small house (Robbo was taking Brody's old room) and both Brody and Mason have had "guests" in the past without anyone having to wear earplugs.(Mind you, without checking old episodes to be sure, I do suspect that which door leads into which bedroom changes depending on who the script calls for to be seen going to bed!Possibly I'm being unfair: I think they've been fairly consistent in having Justin's room be alongside the kitchen, I think Tori's is next to it, Mason's next to that, Raffy's old room possibly the next one along...and I think Brody's room has been shown to be further along sometimes, although I also think it may have been where Mason's is.Oh, and there seems to be a bathroom along there somewhere?)

Anyway. I found both Tori and Robbo very frustrating for much of the episode.Both of them seemed to spend a lot of time risking breaking his bail conditions for no good reason.Robbo almost got busted just so he could hang around Colby's bedside doing nothing for a couple of minutes, then Tori rather pointlessly got Colby to call him and tell him he didn't remember anything.Robbo handing himself into remand really does seem like the lesser of two evils, even if his way of going about it made as much sense as anything else he did in the episode...and even if I'm still expecting the next episode to open with Tori driving after him and getting him to change his mind.Ebony did actually tell Colby she was Boyd's sister while taunting him, but I guess we'll chalk that one up to post-coma confusion.Despite giving Robbo some sensible advice, Colby is then equally frustrating by trying to discharge himself hours after being comatose.I get he's excited to have a new avenue to explore, but nothing's going to change in the next few hours.

Maggie's even-handed view of Diana was fair: She is new to all this, and while logically she's unlikely to find a magic solution that hasn't occurred to anyone else with an afternoon on the internet, she's going to want to do something.Of course, rejecting Maggie is still wrong, but then Ben and indeed Maggie herself have had their moments of handling it wrong, as has Coco.Ziggy...has probably handled it best, surprisingly, aside from making a life-changing decision at a bad time.Ben again impresses: I might have been tempted to go with kicking down doors, but writing Diana a letter is a smart idea.

Talking of Ziggy and her life-changing decision, her and Brody switching their respective awards back and forth wasn't particularly mature.It doesn't help that Brody's review should probably be hung on the wall rather than standing on the dressing table, which would solve everything.

[CaptainHulk]

I was expecting Ebony to come back and finish the job while trying to smother Colby or something with the whole "Why won't you die?!", thingy get stop by Tori, struggle with her, knock her to the floor and run for the hills only to bump into Robbo at top speed....

(I'm not angling for head writer but....) 

 

[Slade]

On 06/08/2018 at 11:21, Little bean said:

Interesting. Substitute “her” for “he” and “daughter” for “wife” and that’s exactly how I see Diana! 

I actually really hate the way they have brought her in and created (for me) totally uneccesary drama, when up to that point they were (unusually for a soap) handling Maggie’s cancer storyline really well. 

Yeah that's a fair point and having watched Monday's episode and thought about it some more I did lean more to your way of thinking although you could argue the drama is realistic and based on what we've seen previously does reflect the relationship between Husband and Mother-in-law.

 

I actually thought Diana was pretty much unbearable on Monday.  It really did seem to be about punishing Ben/having Maggie to herself etc.  She even had a go at Ziggy.  And I think Ben was sensible going to Tori about it.  I wasn't sure if she was genuine when Tori said she would wait for a donor or she was just ar*e covering although at least there was some due diligence before Tori gave her opinion.  I did think Maggie made a good point yesterday about Diana to Ben using Brody and Ziggy as an analogy.

 

I can understand Tori being a character witness for Robbo.  She's been trying to save him for quite a while (although she can't use Ash as an excuse this time).  But I couldn't believe she put up the  bail money and agreed to house him without speaking to the rest of her family about it first.  I think Robbo has been extremely selfish, going to the hospital to see Colby putting the Morgan's bail money at risk.  And Tori has been as well, allowing Robbo to speak to Colby.  It had reached the point where I would have been OK with Robbo going on remand so I wasn't too bothered when he wanted to turn himself in.

[D.B]

Ok, Robbo went to the hospital to talk to Colby-why?! It makes literally no sense, because even if Robbo's right that a familiar voice can work, heck, you could use Dean or Willow or Jasmine. There was literally no need to break in the hospital and risking his freedom and the Morgan's bail money. I get that he's frustrated about no able to do anything, but he should have known so much better, and he was acting a bit selfish, though I did like the way he apologised to Colby, he feels responsible for what happened and all he wants is to set things right. But he, Tori and Jasmine should know better. At least now Colby's awake now, there's a bigger chance that the police will suspect Ebony now. I guess Robbo going to remand is the better option, and I did like it so that he's doing it so that Tori and Justin won't be caught up in it anymore so he has noble reasons here, even though hopefully now it won't be for long. I couldn't help but smirk when Colby said that Murray was in time for his sponge bath. I am suprised at the news of Colby's sister at the end, and I can see why he's excited since this is his first real clue for a very long time, though he should listen to Jasmine and Mason and wait. As you said Red, nothing's gonna to change in the next few hours. 

The Astoni scenes were nice and sweet, especially with Alf, though I felt really sorry for Maggie. There is a real chance things will go even worse and she doesn't want her last moment with her mom to be an argument. Hopefully the two will reconcile soon. 

[atrus]

My heart was pounding for Colby and Dean all over again today in that hospital scene. "If you'd needed mouth-to-mouth I'd have probably left you." Yeah, sure you would. Was struggling to process Dean's attitude about Willow's car; to be honest, I can't really believe they haven't sold it before now. It might have sentimental value but ultimately, it's just a thing - and certainly not more important than, for example, the imperative not to steal from your employers and acquaintances. And surely a far more satisfactory solution than chancing it all on the horses, or greyhounds, or whatever it is Willow's betting on. While both their behaviour has been increasingly idiotic over recent weeks, it's nice to see Dean apparently putting his rivalry with Justin aside and asking for his help to get Willow back on track (or, that's the direction the promo seems to suggest we'll be taking). And at least 'swear on your dad's life' is more inventive than 'look me in the eye', and probably more lie-proof, too.

Looks like Jasmine and Colby are officially regulars now too, which is to be expected. Not sure there's really anyone else we're holding out for, now.

[Red Ranger 1]

5 hours ago, atrus said:

Looks like Jasmine and Colby are officially regulars now too, which is to be expected. Not sure there's really anyone else we're holding out for, now.

Well it'd be nice if Ty got the nod but I'm not holding my breath...

Ooh, where to start? Well, yes, Dean was utterly idiotic here.As atrus says, I don't see why selling your car could ever be considered a worse option than stealing thousands of dollars from your neighbours. Especially with Alf, Irene and John already putting everything together.I'm kind of glad that Willow's addiction is being revisited, since the glib "I stopped gambling when I ran out of money"...isn't how addiction works.Meanwhile, Colby also joins the idiotic crowd, as he decides to risk his health in order to post something on Facebook.It was nice to see Mason doing his best to negotiate to keep him in hospital (I'm guessing that, at a stretch, there's a public health side to looking for someone with a potentially life-threatening condition) even if it only worked temporarily.Not so pleased to see him and Jasmine back flirting, they were dull enough the first time round.So has Dean filled Colby in on the fact they're now flatmates?He didn't seem surprised to find him in the flat...and come to think of it, no-one seems to have batted an eyelid at Dean and Willow openly going in and out of there either.

[c120701]

When Tori arrived, she mentioned to Alf (I think) in the Diner that she was looking for a house with at least 4 bedrooms, so there’s definitely that many and I think it was just 4 when Raffy first arrived as I’m sure someone gave up their room, but then it was quickly forgotten about.

There’s also the annex they mentioned last year, which I assume is in the garage.

[D.B]

17 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said:

So has Dean filled Colby in on the fact they're now flatmates?He didn't seem surprised to find him in the flat...and come to think of it, no-one seems to have batted an eyelid at Dean and Willow openly going in and out of there either.

I think Alf saw them going ou to of the flat a couple of episodes back. He asked them what they were doing and Wiloow said they were just minding the place for Colby, but Alf was still suspicious. 

[D.B]

Okay- could someone please tell me what planet Dean thinks he lives on when he thinks that selling a car by normal contacts is worse than robbing off his neighbours, friends and good people? I get the sentimental value of the car and how much it means to Willow and her dad, but practically, it's better than stealing and knocking old people on the ground. It was good to see some interaction with Justin and Willow that didn't result in an argument, and I really like Justin yesterday, with the way he comforted Willow despite their past and the way he listened to Alf and Irene's advice with consideration. Dean swallowing his pride and asking Justin for help was a surprise, but hopefully it will lead to a good result. Even though I haven't liked her for the past few weeks, I did feel a bit sorry for Willow, she was getting her life together in the Bay and it's all gone tumbling down on her, though to be fair, a lot of it was because of her own decisions. If you're going to fight by the sword, you have to be prepared to die by it. 

Colby's stubbornness about leaving the hospital was a bit frustrating to watch, since it's probably going to backfire, though, to be fair, if I was in his position and my sister was missing, I'd probably be the same. I did like his scenes with Mason and Jasmine, they were both very good in this episode, trying to help him in his search, but also being reasonable and sensible. I did like the conversation with Colby and Jasmine, it was really sweet, while I guess the hope of them being a couple has passed, at least we get to see them as friends. The banter with Colby and Dean was fun as well. 

Most definitely for me, the most entertaining bit was the dialogue between John and Irene, that was very good. And welcome back Roo!

[H&Alover]

18 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said:

So has Dean filled Colby in on the fact they're now flatmates?He didn't seem surprised to find him in the flat...and come to think of it, no-one seems to have batted an eyelid at Dean and Willow openly going in and out of there either.

Dean told Colby in the hospital he and Willow were crashing at the flat.  No surprise their recent argument has been forgotten.  Just as well I suppose as Colby has now discharged himself, at least he won't be on his own. Another hospital that performs miracles Red, like Weatherfield General and Hotton  General, don't know the name of the hospital in EE. I guess as Dean saved his life the fact he & Willow were effectively squatting is a small consideration.  came as  a surprise to Dean hearing  the news about Ebony. Was Colby not able to use his laptop at the hospital to set up this Facebook page to look for Bella?  Mason did get his supervisor's OK to look up any medical records there may be on her.  I think it was Jasmine who said she may not be affected by this malignant hypothermia it could just be the males of the family as in haemophilia, the females carry it but only the males are sufferers. You can't blame him for being so eager, this is the first real clue he's had in six years. I'm thinking he's going to have to be careful how he words the message, if his step dad catches sight of it it could blow it.

Dean may have acted like a idiot over the car, but the guy had ducked out anyway, he knows how much the car means to Willow and now he's put himself into hock by offering to work for Brett to pay off the debt - yeh like that will happen - once you're in, you're in. He did get Willow to admit once she'd paid off the $6000 she couldn't promise she wouldn't use the rest to gamble with. I was impressed with his actions after he saw Willow & Justin talking, he didn't go round to the Morgan's and knock Justin's head off he asked him to help Willow. Btw I know it's no excuse, but Willow only used the skimmer once, it was Dean who retrieved it and has been using it since, which also beggars the question why didn't she destroy it before she dumped it? They have both done stupid and violent things but there is good in them. 

Did I mishear, again, or did Jasmine say Ebony stole the poison that killed Hazel and was found at the flat from ND and they had her on CCTV?  Surely it was the ampoule of the muscle relaxant we saw her stealing and anyway Hazel gave Ebony the phials of poison which would have serial numbers on so the police could track which hospital they were supplied to.

Was a bit, OK a lot, pointless Robbo sneaking out to the hospital when Colby hadn't been brought out of his coma. He not only risked getting the Morgan's in lumber but maybe getting Jasmine in trouble for assisting him. I do feel I should mention the Morgan's house must be pretty near to ND as Mason was still chatting to the cop when Tori and Robbo came back from having 'been in the garden'.  When Colby came round he still wasn't able to help Robbo  much.  Robbo made the best decision by taking himself out of temptations way by putting himself back in remand.  He knew he wouldn't be able to resist getting involved if out and risking getting the Morgan's in bother.  At least in remand he won't be tempted to sneak off and do his thing, will have to wait for updates.  I do agree his just taking off and walking/getting a bus to Yabby Creek was weird, Tori could have driven him and although I wouldn't expect the cops to send a car out for him he could have rung and told them he was coming in, maybe meet him halfway, so as not to get picked up by an alert cop. 

If that was the extent of Ziggy and Brody's first row I think they'll be OK. Do they not have nails and a hammer at the Astoni house, but as it's not his place maybe Brody doesn't feel he ought to go knocking holes in the wall. His first review of Salt means as much to him as Ziggy's award does to her.

Although on one hand it must be a relief she's not arguing with Diana she is still her mum and if she is dying of course Maggie will  want her by her side.  While it would have been very Ben like to knock down Diana's door his idea of Maggie writing a letter was brilliant no doubt thinking about the letters she wrote him Ziggy and Coco. Maggie can take her time deciding on how to word it with no Diana interrupting. Plus while Diana can ignore phone calls, texts I reckon, as does Ben, a letter is another matter. She may not read it right away, but the temptation will be too hard to resist and in these days  where everything is printed to Diana who grew up in a different era something handwritten will be very powerful and mean so much more.