2021 Season - UK Episode Discussion

[H&Alover]

That was rather risky of Leah leaving the bag in the motel room and how come Stephen didn't wonder where it was.  If there had been a trial and it's only because Stephen confessed there isn't going to be, yes the cops would have needed the money and laptop, which they may still may, it was Susie's so who knows what is on it, more victims, names of contacts etc.   OK it seems I got it wrong about Leah being scared of Justin, it was  because of her secret. Is she really serious that they keep the money and start afresh, Leah has usually been a honest person and would be horrified if someone else had done what she is thinking of.  I wonder how fooled Cash was about this hyperthetical question of Justin's, it was strangely familiar to what he and Leah had gone through?  Leah did look a bit guilty when Irene was telling her about John and that it was looking likely he wouldn't get his money back. 

Cash is learning that being a small town cop involves being pounced on by the locals and asked questions which you have nothing to do with and isn't a police matter anyway.  It is a tricky position John's in, he did give Susie his password and account details but hard to prove he didn't give her permission to transfer the money from the surf club to his account.  Cash was probably giving him the worst case scenario. 

Not back to normal by any means but at least a thawing between Ryder and Nikau.  It was the first Tane, Ari and Mia had heard of the punch up and Chloe hadn't mentioned it  as she wasn't on Nik's side either over it and it is out of character of Nik to go around hitting anyone let alone his mate. OK both Ari and Tane felt he deserved a rollicking, but he did feel bad enough about it, so of course he got stroppy with them.  

it was very naive of Nik to think Sienna would take him back, he did humiliate her in public.  He  suited her then when she was in her 'bit of rough' mode, but now he's so last month - so gone back to the type she usually goes for. 

OK, OK Nik cheated on Bella, but it was one  mistake with Sienna taking advantage of an insecure, drunken young man.  Brody had a full on affair with emotions involved that went on for weeks before she found out.  She was furious with Justin as he had known for ages but hadn't told her but she eventually forgave him so there is hope for Tane who just did what Justin did, looking after family.  Justin kept threatening Brody that if he didn't tell Ziggy he would. 

Totally shallow comment warning.  Is it wrong that I crave Mia's aka Anna Samson's - cheekbones?

[pembie]

On 26/08/2021 at 01:02, Red Ranger 1 said:

I kind of want to like Tori and Christian being back together, but the way things ended with Rachel will always cast a shadow over it.If it had simply been Christian realising that he'd given up his own life in order to help Rachel and shouldn't have become involved to the degree he did, I think that would be fine.But Rachel dying and the way everyone's been talking since makes it seem like we're supposed to think Christian was wrong to try and save her at all, which just seems absurd.

Similarly, I like Justin, I like Leah and Justin together, and I'm glad they're getting on well, but my response to Justin cheerily announcing the assault charges have been dropped was "Why?!" After all, he was guilty, and the fact his victim turned out to be a criminal doesn't change that.Maybe the idea is Stephen withdrew the complaint out of guilt, but if so, that should have been made clear, instead of acting like him being charged was an injustice.And now Leah's the one breaking the law, not only stealing back their money but taking a laptop into the bargain.

(Okay, I'm going to have to play plot hole bingo here.If that's the money from cashing Leah and Justin's cheque, where's the rest of the money? Okay, she paid the surf club sponsorship money straight into an account which might not have been traced.But what about the money she transferred from John's account into her own? Couldn't the bank trace it? If she drew it out straightaway, where is it? And are we ever going to hear what happened with the loan Leah and Justin took out with one of Susie's associates? Did he disappear into the ether or did they say they didn't need the loan now they'd lost their deposit? One plot hole that's been filled: Susie being killed as she was about to leave town explains why she still had ID in the name Susan McAllister on her.)

Elsewhere, Alf considers his impression of a bear with a sore head but at least a reasonable offer from Kieran gets him listening.

Tori I think has been quite dim with fully understanding Christians reasoning and thinking with Rachel even though she’s died   You could say it’s better to be saved than falling out of plane than being hit by a car so Rachel had a less painful and quick death she didn’t suffer

[ter06]

I was Team Leah with the money! It is her money after all! I was disgusted when Cash said she would be charged so I was delighted when he said it was an anonymous tip off. I’m no Leah fan so it’s unusual for me to side with her

Blind Freddie can see Ziggy is getting a turn off Tane and has an eye on Dean.

[Red Ranger 1]

Okay, well, at least Ziggy's stopped being a mardy cow with Tane, and was also a decent surrogate big sister to Bella.And it is really delightful to see Mackenzie back in that role again.Nikau is bordering on being a stalker now.It doesn't help that mere hours previous he was all set to get on a plane to Japan, and now that Sienna's turned him down, he suddenly decides he isn't going to take no for an answer from Bella.He's lucky Dean was so restrained, again.I am liking this odd friendship that's sprung up between Mackenzie and Emmett.

I'm slightly uncomfortable that Cash has only been around a short while and is already turning a blind eye to crimes.I think the way he did it made it seem worse than it was:Him telling Leah she was going to be charged feels like it only happened so the show could put something misleading in the promo, and they struggled to justify it in-story.Did he change his mind or did he just say it to give her a scare?I think she and Justin should get the money back, and it's frankly absurd to suggest they shouldn't, but they need to go through the right channels.

[pembie]

Not a lot to say again this week other than Ziggy being rather over the top with Nik and Bella yes he cheated but it is a teenager romance we are talking about it’s not like Nik had affair like Brody did they weren’t married so Ziggy is silly to compare the two very different things Plus she got with Dean soon after so it didn’t really work when she was telling Bella she would learn to cope 

Kerain and Jasmine have got good chemistry I think 

plus I fear Cash is going to turn out as a wet blanket and let everyone off their crimes 

[H&Alover]

I was definitely with Justin there, yes it was their money, but didn't make it right, it would have torn them apart eventually and how was she going to explain this sudden fund of cash to people? They will get it back but just have to wait awhile Strange Stephen didn't mention it or the laptop to the cops, what is on the laptop could, maybe,  help his case if he had voluntarily  handed it over.  Of course she would have been charged, she tampered  with a crime scene, was it though strictly speaking, nothing happened at the motel, but she did take evidence pertaining to the case.  That worried me too about Cash calling it in as an anonymous tip off and it just happened Justin and Leah heard him, deliberate move on his part?  But, what about fingerprints, as far as the cops are concerned she knows nothing about either and hers would be all over both as would Justin's.  The fact the laptop is password protected won't be a problem for the tech boys and girls. I hope TPTB don't forget to tell 'us' what info they find on it, like possible names of accomplices perhaps, other aliases, what other scams she had in mind.  Did she have any family anywhere?

Was it Tane who said you don't turn your back on family if they make a mistake, well Ziggy did, she took Ben's side when it was revealed that Ben may not have been her dad, thanks to Maggie's one night stand with Marco and turned against Maggie.   It does look like she has forgiven Tane for not telling her, and has realised there is a  difference between Nik's one night stand and Brody's affair. But I'm kind of concerned about her continued talks with Dean, she says they are to check on Bella....but. 

 I think it's hurt Bella more because Nik was her first real love and while a lot of first love teenage romances break up naturally, this was rather abrupt.  Plus there is her history of not having much stability in it, it took her  a while to trust him so would be harder for her to get over.  Hopefully after the third time of Bella telling him he's got the message. Now it looks like Emmett is leaving, and from what we saw in the trailer Dean is guilt tripping him by saying Bella depended on him being there for her.  It is a great opportunity for him, just when he thought his career could have been over, though I'll miss him as will Mac.   Hope Sienna finds out, she'll be furious - heh, heh.

Oh and another sighting of Buddy on Thursday.

 

[Slade]

Marilyn continues to show compassion, in this case with Keiran.  The problem with this whole scenario is just about everybody has valid points.  Whilst I find it funny when Alf loses it, there were times where I didn't really like how he was when Keiran came to the Diner or having a go at Irene for taking him in.  Alf concerns however are legitimate, despite his aggressive attitude.  Keiran is not his son and it's extremely unlikely that Keiran won't relapse and he has Martha to think about.  And TBH, I'm not sure I would want to live with someone who is effectively a ticking time bomb.  Roo on the other hand is trying to help her brother because she feels it is the right thing to do although I do agree with Keiran that this is a crusade for her.

I don't know why but I felt sorry for Jasmine when Keiran moved in even though he hadn't really done anything wrong.  I guess it because she felt uncomfortable.  Despite that I do like the interaction with them and once they talked things out and got pass their differences, I quite enjoyed their scenes (I wonder what was in Keiran's mind when he was sitting next to Jasmine watching her medical soaps in her nightwear).

There are times I don't mind the Christian/Tori scenes but she often reverts to being high maintenance because of her adolescent attitude towards relationships.

I've completely gone off Chloe mainly because of her attitude towards Mackenzie but I also dislike her because she's selfish and self-centered.  Nikau definitely shouldn't have hit Ryder but, Ryder should have just left it and tried to be a friend to both Bella/Nikau.  However, my issue with Chloe was that I felt the only reason why she had a go at Nikau was because it was 'her' boyfriend he hit, not necessarily because he did the wrong thing.  And if that had been someone else, I wouldn't be surprised if she defended Nikau.  Now that the modelling storyline has ended, TBH I just find Nikau annoying and I think he should leave it with Bella.

Really wasn't liking Ziggy's attitude towards Tane supporting Nikau and it felt subconsciously she was going off him.  I couldn't really understand it given how she's supported Justin who fell out with Ben for a bit because of Brody.  It also felt like she was bonding with Dean when she sought Bella out to see how she was.  To me it felt like Tane was only getting annoyed with Nikau for Ziggy's benefit on Fridays' episode.  I was glad that Ziggy backed off with her attitude although it did take the magic touch from Mia Teresa.

Part of me felt Leah was entitled to the money that Stephen got from Susie but the issue is, it wasn't just she and Justin that were ripped off.  Other people lost their cash as well and they have just as much right to get it back.  I was a little bit surprised Cash was prepared to break the rules and bail them out considering he doesn't know them very well.  Justin does seem pretty much back to normal.

I must admit that I was smiling through the Mackenzie/Emmett flirting scenes especially with Dean present.

[H&Alover]

Alf, of course, would quite rightly have his concerns over letting Kieran anywhere near Martha, but as I posted earlier, she is an adult so can make her own mind up.  She and Alf are back now so we'll soon find out what she has decided, Kieran didn't look too happy in the scenes we saw though, snapping at Jasmine which seems to have brought on a seizure.

Kieran is doing something useful according to Roo, helping Jasmine at the hospital, if I heard it right and he's still going to his meetings so is doing all the right things.  Alf's coming back with no announcement threw everyone into a flap, no-one would have known if Ryder hadn't seen his car back at the house and he brought Martha with him so I'm guessing she read the letter. 

Chloe was so getting above herself she did need bringing back down to earth which Ari and Mia did very well, not pandering to her "I'm a mixerist - is that what she called herself -  so anything else is beneath me" which cut no ice with them.  Has she never had to complete a CV before, how has she got other jobs then, such as when she started at salt? Ryder is working all hours to pay off the debt on their truck so she should contribute even if it's not much, wouldn't be the highest wages paid in the bay.  Did make me realise there is only one drinkery there - Salt, I suppose the nearest pub/bar would be in Yabbie Creek then?  

I think it is safe to say her and Bella would never have been BFF's, claws were well and truly out during their  little 'chats'. Even before the whole Nik and who was on whose side thing, they were cool towards each other. 

It is a shame Emmett is off to the big it would have been good so see them perhaps become a couple, there was definitely some flirting going on there.   It could be seen as cowardly that he chickened out of telling Bella about his new job, Mac was expecting him to when they had that little meet up, but he'd just had Dean in his ear saying he hoped Emmett was going to let Bella down by walking away.   I'm not sure whether Dean  was aware of what they were talking about or just thought it was something more personal. I did like he credited Bella with turning his life around  and getting him back to doing what he loved. Maybe a  good idea that he has decided to wait until after the exhibition so not to ruin her confidence.  Having said all that Dean won't be  happy bunny when he finds out Mac knew about Emmett's job but didn't say anything to him or Bella, remind you of anything recent going on, wonder what Dean's take on that will be? Ranting and raving Mac should have given him the heads up so he could be there for Bella, but he will be anyway.  It wasn't her place to say anything, Emmett wanted to handle it his way.  He's had his own 'secrets' he's not wanted anyone else to know about and in turn has kept someone else's until they were ready to reveal it. 

Before I forget - now Kieran has moved into the Beach House, I hope they all remember to put the bolt on the bathroom door when anyone of are using it.  Wouldn't want any red faces would we? 

 

 

 

[Slade]

Really didn't like the way Ryder wanted Bella to be the bigger person and make amends with Chloe.  Chloe started on her multiple times without provocation.  Even when Bella tried to reconcile things, Chloe still had to have a dig that she was lucky that Nikau even went out with her.  And Chloe's attitude towards getting a job at the Diner when Marilyn asked her for a CV had me shaking my head.  It was funny when she told Marilyn she ran her own business - yeah the one that exploded!

 

[CaptainHulk]

19 hours ago, H&Alover said:

Alf, of course, would quite rightly have his concerns over letting Kieran anywhere near Martha, but as I posted earlier, she is an adult so can make her own mind up.  She and Alf are back now so we'll soon find out what she has decided, Kieran didn't look too happy in the scenes we saw though, snapping at Jasmine which seems to have brought on a seizure.

Kieran is doing something useful according to Roo, helping Jasmine at the hospital, if I heard it right and he's still going to his meetings so is doing all the right things.  Alf's coming back with no announcement threw everyone into a flap, no-one would have known if Ryder hadn't seen his car back at the house and he brought Martha with him so I'm guessing she read the letter. 

Chloe was so getting above herself she did need bringing back down to earth which Ari and Mia did very well, not pandering to her "I'm a mixerist - is that what she called herself -  so anything else is beneath me" which cut no ice with them.  Has she never had to complete a CV before, how has she got other jobs then, such as when she started at salt? Ryder is working all hours to pay off the debt on their truck so she should contribute even if it's not much, wouldn't be the highest wages paid in the bay.  Did make me realise there is only one drinkery there - Salt, I suppose the nearest pub/bar would be in Yabbie Creek then?  

I think it is safe to say her and Bella would never have been BFF's, claws were well and truly out during their  little 'chats'. Even before the whole Nik and who was on whose side thing, they were cool towards each other. 

It is a shame Emmett is off to the big it would have been good so see them perhaps become a couple, there was definitely some flirting going on there.   It could be seen as cowardly that he chickened out of telling Bella about his new job, Mac was expecting him to when they had that little meet up, but he'd just had Dean in his ear saying he hoped Emmett was going to let Bella down by walking away.   I'm not sure whether Dean  was aware of what they were talking about or just thought it was something more personal. I did like he credited Bella with turning his life around  and getting him back to doing what he loved. Maybe a  good idea that he has decided to wait until after the exhibition so not to ruin her confidence.  Having said all that Dean won't be  happy bunny when he finds out Mac knew about Emmett's job but didn't say anything to him or Bella, remind you of anything recent going on, wonder what Dean's take on that will be? Ranting and raving Mac should have given him the heads up so he could be there for Bella, but he will be anyway.  It wasn't her place to say anything, Emmett wanted to handle it his way.  He's had his own 'secrets' he's not wanted anyone else to know about and in turn has kept someone else's until they were ready to reveal it. 

Before I forget - now Kieran has moved into the Beach House, I hope they all remember to put the bolt on the bathroom door when anyone of are using it.  Wouldn't want any red faces would we? 

Alf, of course, would quite rightly have his concerns over letting Kieran anywhere near Martha, but as I posted earlier, she is an adult so can make her own mind up.  She and Alf are back now so we'll soon find out what she has decided, Kieran didn't look too happy in the scenes we saw though, snapping at Jasmine which seems to have brought on a seizure.

Kieran is doing something useful according to Roo, helping Jasmine at the hospital, if I heard it right and he's still going to his meetings so is doing all the right things.  Alf's coming back with no announcement threw everyone into a flap, no-one would have known if Ryder hadn't seen his car back at the house and he brought Martha with him so I'm guessing she read the letter. 

Chloe was so getting above herself she did need bringing back down to earth which Ari and Mia did very well, not pandering to her "I'm a mixerist - is that what she called herself -  so anything else is beneath me" which cut no ice with them.  Has she never had to complete a CV before, how has she got other jobs then, such as when she started at salt? Ryder is working all hours to pay off the debt on their truck so she should contribute even if it's not much, wouldn't be the highest wages paid in the bay.  Did make me realise there is only one drinkery there - Salt, I suppose the nearest pub/bar would be in Yabbie Creek then?  

I think it is safe to say her and Bella would never have been BFF's, claws were well and truly out during their  little 'chats'. Even before the whole Nik and who was on whose side thing, they were cool towards each other. 

It is a shame Emmett is off to the big it would have been good so see them perhaps become a couple, there was definitely some flirting going on there.   It could be seen as cowardly that he chickened out of telling Bella about his new job, Mac was expecting him to when they had that little meet up, but he'd just had Dean in his ear saying he hoped Emmett was going to let Bella down by walking away.   I'm not sure whether Dean  was aware of what they were talking about or just thought it was something more personal. I did like he credited Bella with turning his life around  and getting him back to doing what he loved. Maybe a  good idea that he has decided to wait until after the exhibition so not to ruin her confidence.  Having said all that Dean won't be  happy bunny when he finds out Mac knew about Emmett's job but didn't say anything to him or Bella, remind you of anything recent going on, wonder what Dean's take on that will be? Ranting and raving Mac should have given him the heads up so he could be there for Bella, but he will be anyway.  It wasn't her place to say anything, Emmett wanted to handle it his way.  He's had his own 'secrets' he's not wanted anyone else to know about and in turn has kept someone else's until they were ready to reveal it. 

Before I forget - now Kieran has moved into the Beach House, I hope they all remember to put the bolt on the bathroom door when anyone of them are using it.  Wouldn't want any red faces would we? 

Alf, of course, would quite rightly have his concerns over letting Kieran anywhere near Martha, but as I posted earlier, she is an adult so can make her own mind up.  She and Alf are back now so we'll soon find out what she has decided, Kieran didn't look too happy in the scenes we saw though, snapping at Jasmine which seems to have brought on a seizure.

Kieran is doing something useful according to Roo, helping Jasmine at the hospital, if I heard it right and he's still going to his meetings so is doing all the right things.  Alf's coming back with no announcement threw everyone into a flap, no-one would have known if Ryder hadn't seen his car back at the house and he brought Martha with him so I'm guessing she read the letter. 

Chloe was so getting above herself she did need bringing back down to earth which Ari and Mia did very well, not pandering to her "I'm a mixerist - is that what she called herself -  so anything else is beneath me" which cut no ice with them.  Has she never had to complete a CV before, how has she got other jobs then, such as when she started at salt? Ryder is working all hours to pay off the debt on their truck so she should contribute even if it's not much, wouldn't be the highest wages paid in the bay.  Did make me realise there is only one drinkery there - Salt, I suppose the nearest pub/bar would be in Yabbie Creek then?  

I think it is safe to say her and Bella would never have been BFF's, claws were well and truly out during their  little 'chats'. Even before the whole Nik and who was on whose side thing, they were cool towards each other. 

It is a shame Emmett is off to the big it would have been good so see them perhaps become a couple, there was definitely some flirting going on there.   It could be seen as cowardly that he chickened out of telling Bella about his new job, Mac was expecting him to when they had that little meet up, but he'd just had Dean in his ear saying he hoped Emmett was going to let Bella down by walking away.   I'm not sure whether Dean  was aware of what they were talking about or just thought it was something more personal. I did like he credited Bella with turning his life around  and getting him back to doing what he loved. Maybe a  good idea that he has decided to wait until after the exhibition so not to ruin her confidence.  Having said all that Dean won't be  happy bunny when he finds out Mac knew about Emmett's job but didn't say anything to him or Bella, remind you of anything recent going on, wonder what Dean's take on that will be? Ranting and raving Mac should have given him the heads up so he could be there for Bella, but he will be anyway.  It wasn't her place to say anything, Emmett wanted to handle it his way.  He's had his own 'secrets' he's not wanted anyone else to know about and in turn has kept someone else's until they were ready to reveal it. 

Before I forget - now Kieran has moved into the Beach House, I hope they all remember to put the bolt on the bathroom door when anyone of them are using it.  Wouldn't want any red faces would we? 

Alf, of course, would quite rightly have his concerns over letting Kieran anywhere near Martha, but as I posted earlier, she is an adult so can make her own mind up.  She and Alf are back now so we'll soon find out what she has decided, Kieran didn't look too happy in the scenes we saw though, snapping at Jasmine which seems to have brought on a seizure.

Kieran is doing something useful according to Roo, helping Jasmine at the hospital, if I heard it right and he's still going to his meetings so is doing all the right things.  Alf's coming back with no announcement threw everyone into a flap, no-one would have known if Ryder hadn't seen his car back at the house and he brought Martha with him so I'm guessing she read the letter. 

Chloe was so getting above herself she did need bringing back down to earth which Ari and Mia did very well, not pandering to her "I'm a mixerist - is that what she called herself -  so anything else is beneath me" which cut no ice with them.  Has she never had to complete a CV before, how has she got other jobs then, such as when she started at salt? Ryder is working all hours to pay off the debt on their truck so she should contribute even if it's not much, wouldn't be the highest wages paid in the bay.  Did make me realise there is only one drinkery there - Salt, I suppose the nearest pub/bar would be in Yabbie Creek then?  

I think it is safe to say her and Bella would never have been BFF's, claws were well and truly out during their  little 'chats'. Even before the whole Nik and who was on whose side thing, they were cool towards each other. 

It is a shame Emmett is off to the big it would have been good so see them perhaps become a couple, there was definitely some flirting going on there.   It could be seen as cowardly that he chickened out of telling Bella about his new job, Mac was expecting him to when they had that little meet up, but he'd just had Dean in his ear saying he hoped Emmett was going to let Bella down by walking away.   I'm not sure whether Dean  was aware of what they were talking about or just thought it was something more personal. I did like he credited Bella with turning his life around  and getting him back to doing what he loved. Maybe a  good idea that he has decided to wait until after the exhibition so not to ruin her confidence.  Having said all that Dean won't be  happy bunny when he finds out Mac knew about Emmett's job but didn't say anything to him or Bella, remind you of anything recent going on, wonder what Dean's take on that will be? Ranting and raving Mac should have given him the heads up so he could be there for Bella, but he will be anyway.  It wasn't her place to say anything, Emmett wanted to handle it his way.  He's had his own 'secrets' he's not wanted anyone else to know about and in turn has kept someone else's until they were ready to reveal it. 

Before I forget - now Kieran has moved into the Beach House, I hope they all remember to put the bolt on the bathroom door when anyone of them are using it.  Wouldn't want any red faces would we? 

"Jeez, Darl! Put it away!"