2022 Season - UK Episode Discussion

[pembie]

I know it’s meant to be the pregnancy but Ziggy I think is normally very easy to fly off the handle about things so I didn’t notice much difference 

I think the Heather story needs to move forward abit now it seems to have slowed down abit too me

I have give tinder a go and all I can say is I have never had that many matches that quick give buzzing through as Rose did 
 

The actress playing Bree I don’t find that convincing just yet so I haven’t really started to like her yet  

[CaptainHulk]

13 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said:

Marilyn's gaslighting of her friends continues with her now playing the mental health card to get their sympathy while continuing to treat them like dirt. Despite Irene saying early on that maybe having to face some consequences is what she needs, she soon has everyone glossing over both what she has done and what she hasn't. No doubt if/when the truth comes out, Alf will carry on mollycoddling and enabling her rather than her facing the consequences of what she's done to everyone.I guess this is what happens when viewers complain Marilyn doesn't get any storylines.I'd quite like her to never have one again, but sadly she seems to be a "lifer".

No prizes for guessing who's on your dartboard this month! Anyone'd think she burned *your* house and stole your car! (Elvis reference,feel free to roll eyes)

[CaptainHulk]

*plays the "psycho" strings on *

 

 

[Slade]

Nikau put his foot in it.  Heather seemed happy when she thought Marilyn did something for her and he brought up the whole she's not telling people about you thing.  He was right but it was unfortunate he happened to mention that particular point given she was in a good mood.

I feel Heather is pretty much a Jackal and Hyde.  She seems to get very angry with Marilyn and tries to hurt her but obviously wants a relationship with her.  I said before that Heather just wanted some love and it was kind of sad when Nikau was comforting her and she said Marilyn was never going to love her.

It appears as though Alf is suspicious of Heather but is obviously not saying anything because she's Roo's client (I still can't believe Roo hasn't picked up anything yet).  I have to admit, Heather did make me laugh when she was talking about Marilyn and the fact that they all turned the other check.  I also found it funny when she did that fake laugh/smile trying to conceal her annoyance.  I recall her doing that once before when she heard Marilyn was proud of Jett.

The two things I wondered about Heather was what is her end goal and how far is she prepared to go.  I initially wondered if she wanted revenge but after watching the episode today I believe she just wants Marilyn.  I could be wrong but I don't actually think she wants any harm to come to Marilyn (She hasn't physically harmed anybody yet).  She wants her ostracised so she can have her all to herself.  I'm guessing that's why she targeted Jett, John and now Leah.  Because they are the people closest to her and she gets jealous and perceives them as a threat to what she can potentially have with her mother.

I did actually agree with Leah.  Irrespective of how bad a mother Marilyn has been or what kind of person she is, Heather is responsible for her own actions.  And it's not as if she's a kid.  She's 27 years old.  I do think Marilyn is still handling this extremely badly though.   She's lying just as much as Heather is and given what has happened, even if she hadn't recognised it before, Leah certainly pointed out that Heather is unstable.  A lot of her behaviour is not normal.  Marilyn just seems to have her head in the sand, is making excuses where she should be getting everything out in the open so Heather can get help.

I do find myself in agreement with pembie.  They need to escalate this storyline now as we can't have Heather simply lying and trying to manipulate people forever.  All it takes is for the truth to come out and then something has to happen.  Although given that she trashed Justin/Leah's place, I imagine this isn't going to stay a secret for much longer.  That was a bad move by Heather.  At least John didn't know who she is but Leah does although I really didn't like or think it was wise Leah confronting Heather at the Caravan Park like that either.

I loved Justin's reaction after he criticised Ziggy for not ordering the customer's car part when they were at the Diner and she was crying her eyes out.  Mackenzie seemed to get her own back on Justin although I'm glad they've both come to an arrangement which is mutually beneficial.

[Red Ranger 1]

I don't know if we were meant to read anything into the fact that, for once, there was no cut to Heather giving an "evil" look to camera when she hugged Marilyn.Was she genuinely grateful that Marilyn had actually done something for her, until she found out it hadn't really cost Marilyn anything? If I'm being honest, probably not: It was hard to read any gratitude in her gloating that Marilyn wouldn't have any friends left now.At least she actually stayed for a session with Roo for once! (Of course, Heather could have sorted this by pressing charges over the crime Marilyn actually did commit instead of trying to look good to Alf and Roo...) I think Alf and the others (apart from Leah and John) have pretty much accepted Marilyn's latest lie, and the fact they've all immediately forgiven her makes her lies even more perverse because they'd forgive what she really has done as well.It's just Marilyn being selfish: Now she isn't even giving a feeble excuse when Leah or Nikau asks why she isn't telling people, she just pretends they haven't said anything. Meanwhile, Leah finds it's not a good idea to tell someone not to threaten you while you're threatening them...

The Palace gig being a flop feels rather contrived: Weren't they the ones that sought Lyrik out? What happened to Lyrik's fan base following them there? I'm not sure whether to feel sorry for their owner losing the regular spot or not: He did sound like hard work but he was also willing to give them a new home after Mackenzie threw her toys out the pram.Anyway, Justin and Mackenzie did seem to strike up a deal that suits them both, with her paying the price he asked for and them both getting security.It does feel like Justin should have run this by the band, but he did talk to Theo and Kirby about getting the gig back. Actually, it's a bit strange that we didn't see Lyrik's reaction to the disastrous gig, although maybe that's tomorrow.

At least Ziggy and Dean got to spend a chunk of the episode with other people: I enjoyed Dean confiding in Mackenzie, and Justin's utter bemusement at Ziggy's meltdown.But it does feel like they spent two episodes going round and round in circles without really resolving anything.

[pembie]

There are a few bands touring the pubs where my dad lives in Cornwall so I don’t see why Lyric has to be tied down to only Salt seems rather a poor business decision really You surely want to get known in a few places you get different audiences seems quite daft but this show seems rather silly these days

How did Heather know where Leah lives? And where didn’t Buddy eat her alive haha so many questions 

And I forgot the scene but it was one when Heather was telling Alf and Roo that she and Marilyn get on now and then turns to camera for like the longest villainous look ever and neither Alf or Roo noticed that was amusing 

So was Ziggy running away from Justin crying when in normal reality if she wasn’t pregnant she would have yelled or punched him so I did like her there

[CaptainHulk]

Well in Summer Bay, asking around is usually how people find out information (small  town and that) but given how NOBODY locks their doors, it was inevitable.

And Pregnant or not punching your boss isn't recommended...

[H&Alover]

On 08/11/2022 at 18:37, CaptainHulk said:

Dean better get himself a protective cup! 

What?

[H&Alover]

Don't worry Justin, you didn't do anything wrong when Ziggy burst into tears and run out, he looked so perplexed and it was so unlike the Ziggy he knows.  She would have normally yelled at him! I was waiting for her to throw up. I know Dean keeps banging on about it while Ziggy wants to stay as 'normal' as long as possible, but he makes some important points, maternity pay, time off to see the docs, suppose she collapses again this time carrying something heavy. Or he could ask her to lift something heavy which could harm the baby.   Oh those good old pregnancy hormones, they do play havoc with you and those around you, angry, weepy, calm.  At least Mac had some experience of it all so could give Dean some reassurance.   Someone else - Leah/Irene - is going to twig what is wrong - no not the right word - what is up with Zigg.

Heather was definitely not a happy bunny when she was told by Roo Marilyn hadn't been nicked by the cops when she confessed to slashing John's tyres as he decided not to press charges.  He knows she didn't as she ducked out of the question of how many she had slashed, do we know how many it was? We've got a date as to where H&A is time wise 30th November according to the date on the cheque. How many tyres would $425 cover? 

What crime has Marilyn committed btw?

Nik looked very worried/concerned about Heather's rant about how Marilyn was appeared to be an angel and how people ought to know the truth about her. To him Marilyn is a good person as she took him and his family in when they were homeless against John's wishes to thank Ari for his help when they were held hostage. 

Not a good move by Leah to confront Heather about her actions as she, Heather, now knows someone else knows who she is.  Leah did at least do the right thing by calling the cops, I think Leah had locked the door, which is a novelty in the bay, as she and Justin were out.  If they find prints does Heather have any on record to match?  No good her saying she thinks she knows who it was, they need proof.  I wondered how Heather knew where Leah lived but she could ask most anyone by innocently saying she needed to return something to her.  

I'm guessing Marilyn being away with Roo & Alf is going to play a part in what happens next whatever that is going to be.   Seems Heather does a disappearing act. 

Marilyn gave the same reason to Leah as to why she hasn't come clean about Heather because she wants to know her better first.  Leah is right Heather is not a child and is responsible for her own actions - or is she?  I've said before Heather does have the tendency to tell different people different tales  so none of them know what she is really like. 

It was a genuine smile Heather gave when Marilyn told her she had owned up to slashing John's tyres to get her off the accusation. 

It appears then Lyrik's gig at The Palace didn't go well, just a fluke Mac was there and saw how bad it was.  OK Mac and Justin have struck a deal Mac wants them to sign an exclusive contract, but he should run it by them first, they'd only be playing there every two weeks, what do they do the rest of the time?

 

 

 

 

 

[CaptainHulk]

2 hours ago, H&Alover said:

What?

In case Ziggy aims "South of the Border" during one of her mood Swings!