2022 Season - UK Episode Discussion

[atrus]

Hmm. Not very keen on Stacey. I can't put my finger on it but I have a feeling she's going to prove a difficult personality. It's not that I disapprove of her desire to be in an open relationship - that's absolutely fine - but she did get incredibly prickly when Xander said what he did, and I'm not sure it was necessarily warranted. Open or not, relationships are about compromise and it felt like she wasn't even willing to hear him out before deciding he was trying to browbeat her into exclusivity.

I didn't mind Dean and Ziggy's baby name row as much as I thought I would, given they took the time to delve a bit deeper into Dean's reasoning and drew on his backstory to get there. I'm certainly in the "surnames don't matter that much" camp and I can't say I'd mind either way myself - if anything, I'd say it makes sense to have the mother's name because in the event of a separation, the child is statistically more likely to land up with the mother and it would just mean things were likely to be easier administratively in that case - but I understood why Dean felt differently.

49 minutes ago, H&Alover said:

 I don't know how it works in Australia with a babies surname, Dean would have to have his on the Birth certificate  but is it a question of whose surname is registered?  Would that take any fatherly rights away from him? 

No, unless I'm missing something about a different way of working in Aus, I don't think the choice of surname for the child is likely to imbue the parent from whom they've inherited that name with any particular rights (in the UK, you can give a child any surname you like, even if it's entirely different to both parents', and I'd assume the Australian system is largely descended from ours). Judging by today's episode, for Dean it was more of a symbolic thing, of being worried that people would assume he wasn't a fixture in the child's life if they had different names.

Possibly having the father's name (i.e. listed as the father) on the birth certificate does entail some rights or make them easier to uphold, but that's a separate question - although I guess there are DNA tests for that kind of thing too these days.

[CaptainHulk]

^Well the Aussies used the £ until the mid-60s, so it's fair to say they inherited a fair deal of Colonialisms. (I.e. Crown vs, etc)

For more information,  look in your local library (if it's still standing!)

Back to the ep. When the kid's old enough, he/she may want to do an Olivia and have both names (was Fraser first then Richards) or have one name as a middle name ala Ben Kirk on Nabes.

And, ooh at that cliffhanger.

[c120701]

Dean & Ziggy are deep in the realm of clutching at straws for stories. The pointless story about not telling Justin about the scare, now this surname story - she wants to be equal but wants the baby to be Astoni but doesn’t suggest a hyphenated name. I reckon Thompson could work for a boy’s name and Astoni for a girl’s name so then the opposite for a surname.

[Red Ranger 1]

Alf's episode count this week:Four. Sparse week otherwise, with only Irene, Marilyn and Justin managing three.

I meant to say yesterday, but I thought Zoe Astoni sounded better than Zoe Thompson! The sensible idea of a hyphenated surname got quickly abandoned because they couldn't agree which way round to have them, and I found the ending rather weak.I mean, I kind of get where Dean's coming from, if that's his experience, but I'd have thought Ziggy would sensibly point out that the best way to show people that he's there for his child is to be there for his child, not make some vague symbolic gesture. Instead, she just goes "Awww, that's so sweet, I'll totally give in to you and submit myself to your patriarchal philosophy."

I kind of saw Stacey's point, in that I think Xander did say what he did partly because he was hoping she'd agree to see only him.(Him turning up while she was working demanding she talk to him immediately didn't do his case any favours either.)And I'm not sure Rose really helped matters.I'm glad Xander was honest with Nikau anyway.

John breaking a window and running away might have been funny in 1976 but in 2022? (Would that even work in the days of double glazing? Or doesn't Summer Bay have that?) Nikau should probably have realised that John hitting the balls away from his house was the safest thing. I'm not sure if Theo will appreciate John trying to line up a replacement for Kirby.Shame Mackenzie wasn't keen, I'd have quite liked to see that.

[pembie]

I quite liked John smashing that window with a golf ball and running off

im interested to see where Xander and Stacy end up I don’t know but I quite like Xander 

Ziggy falling down the stairs felt like it was there just to create baby drama for the sake of it

[CaptainHulk]

17 hours ago, pembie said:

I quite liked John smashing that window with a golf ball and running off

im interested to see where Xander and Stacy end up I don’t know but I quite like Xander 

Ziggy falling down the stairs felt like it was there just to create baby drama for the sake of it

John was probably a kid who'd put your window in with a footy and leg it for his life lol.

Yeah, the fall just felt tacked on. Like Eden's ankle injury a couple months ago.

[c120701]

Have to agree that this golf story seems out of place in 2022, when Marilyn said she’d never been on the golf course I was really surprised as I could’ve pictured Alf, Ailsa, Don & Marilyn having gone for a game of couples golf and Marilyn either causing chaos or surprising everyone by beating Alf. Then the John scene, it all seemed much more Neighbours or early Home and Away. I wonder if there’s someone who’s moved across in the story team…

[CaptainHulk]

Last Golf story was 1990 w/ Alf and Grant and Emma was caddying for the former.

As long as the current one takes away from Lyrik or "Three to Tango", I can put up with it.

[H&Alover]

I do see it from Dean's point of view, sorry ladies if I'm not being feminist/modern enough for you.  He's been there in both ways.  Rick didn't want his name on Dean's birth certificate or register and Dean's name wasn't on Jai's but that was  because he didn't know he was a dad.  OK it's true that having the fathers name on your sons/daughters documents doesn't necessarily mean you'll always be there for them but equally it could apply to the mothers, they can just as easily do a bunk.  Having the father's name on certificate/register does mean he is liable for any money due to the child's upkeep.  There is something else too, at least in England,  if he isn't named as the father anywhere and the mother dies he doesn't have an automatic claim to the child, the mother's parent could step in and raise them, unless she, the mum, has it written down he is the legal guardian.    There is more to Zigg's accident but I'm .  

Well I thought John breaking a window with a golf ball and running away was funny, just shows what different senses of humour we have on here.  I would have thought it would have been pretty easy for the neighbour to track down who's it was. 

On 03/02/2023 at 18:36, c120701 said:

Dean & Ziggy are deep in the realm of clutching at straws for stories. The pointless story about not telling Justin about the scare, now this surname story - she wants to be equal but wants the baby to be Astoni but doesn’t suggest a hyphenated name. 

Well she did and they 'argued' about whether it should be Astoni-Thompson or Thompson-Astoni. 

I have said OK Stacey follows her own path and Xander is giving it a try but having her asking  his mate out is pushing it.  Very decent of Nik to run it pass Xander as to what he thought about it, Stacey didn't tell him about about the whole open dating she is into so of course he was puzzled.  He did turn her down as I imagine he'd feel uncomfortable about it. Rose needs to keep her nose out of it though. 

OK they need another team  to play against but since when has Justin ever been into golf? 

 

[CaptainHulk]

^Just an excuse to get James/Justin in Goofy golf gear for promo shoots, maybe

Fore!

*sees Self out*