adam436 Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 13/01/2025 at 22:53, CaptainHulk said: Killing Chloe off was to aid Ben/Jesse's departure Expand I was never a Jesse fan, but he was treated pretty poorly in his exit storyline for very little long-term gain. Especially when you consider his last regular love interest Josie left a few weeks earlier, and he could also have got a happy ending with Chloe. The writers seemed at a loss with Jesse after he and Leah broke up, but it's a shame they undid all the development they'd made with his character over his second regular stint. 4 Quote
Sunny Girl Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 I was definitely a Jesse (and Ben Urwin) fan and they definitely treated Ben shabbily in his second stint - That's for sure. Quote
Sb boy Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 I liked Jesse when he with selina and with kylie later but I didn’t really take the relationship he had later. However short lived with Leah and Chloe. Quote
Homeandawayfan. Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) Happy 37th birthday today H&A. 17 January 2025. Only 3 years until your 40th. The Early Years began with the pilot episode in Australia 37 years ago today. Edited January 17 by Homeandawayfan. 3 Quote
adam436 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 On 17/01/2025 at 12:15, Homeandawayfan. said: The Early Years began with the pilot episode in Australia 37 years ago today. Expand It's hard to believe sometimes. I consider the Early Years to be 1988-2000, which seemed like such a long period at the time, but now it's less than a third of the total period on air. I know others consider the Sutherland era and perhaps even the years up to Sally's exit as the "Early Years" though. But still, in 3 years time, Sally would have only been on H&A for half its run. 1 Quote
Sb boy Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 The early years. Definitely. For me personally ended. When AIlsa died although. I never liked the Sutherlands that much there first few months. Had them. Bedding in for a nearly 5 year stint and they were part of the later part of 2000 they will never be classed as. Classic characters the same way people think of Alf. Ailsa Bobby. Shannon. Etc but for me personally they fit in towards the end of the first golden era. It would not really enter a new golden period till 2002 till 2008 Quote
adam436 Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 On 22/01/2025 at 19:45, Sb boy said: The early years. Definitely. For me personally ended. When AIlsa died Expand Aside from Ailsa's exit, 2000 also saw the revamped titles and theme song, losing the original Stewart house and original Diner location and a brand new family moving into Summer Bay House. Plus the huge cast turnover that occurred over late 1999/2000 which included some fairly iconic characters like Sam, Ailsa, Marilyn, Rebecca, Travis, Chloe, Justine, Jesse and the Nashes among others. On 22/01/2025 at 19:45, Sb boy said: It would not really enter a new golden period till 2002 till 2008 Expand May I ask why you consider that a golden period? Admittedly I stopped watching for a long time from mid 2005 because I'd lost interest, but I wouldn't have rated those years I did watch particularly high. Quote
Sb boy Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Mainly. I consider 2002 to 2008. A new era. Reconnecting with Old faves coming. Back. A new set of teens. Entering. The fold. Some iconic. Character departures Donald. Sally. Although I never really liked her anyway. And. Some. Great new additions I. Really liked. Nicole. She had an. Intreasting. Story arc the fact that she was drop. Dead. Beautiful didn’t bother me eaither plus. 2002 saw the return of iconic. Characters like. Martin and lance plus AIlsa as figimant of ALfs . Imagination. Due to a brain tumour. And some intreasting. Stories like the 150th celebration of the bay and ALfs 60th Sally and Flynn wedding saw pippa Steven and fisher return. 2 Quote
cymbaline Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Maybe the golden era depends on what age you were when you started watching. Sort of like how most people love the music from their younger years more than the modern rubbish... 1 Quote
adam436 Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) On 23/01/2025 at 11:31, Sb boy said: Mainly. I consider 2002 to 2008. A new era. Reconnecting with Old faves coming. Back. A new set of teens. Entering. The fold. Some iconic. Character departures Donald. Sally. Although I never really liked her anyway. And. Some. Great new additions I. Really liked. Nicole. She had an. Intreasting. Story arc the fact that she was drop. Dead. Beautiful didn’t bother me eaither plus. 2002 saw the return of iconic. Characters like. Martin and lance plus AIlsa as figimant of ALfs . Imagination. Due to a brain tumour. And some intreasting. Stories like the 150th celebration of the bay and ALfs 60th Sally and Flynn wedding saw pippa Steven and fisher return. Expand Thanks for sharing. It definitely had the nostalgic feel with returnees like Lance, Pippa, Carly etc. I guess I didn't enjoy the melodramatic direction it took in 2005 onwards, nor many of the newcomers from that period. On 23/01/2025 at 20:45, cymbaline said: Maybe the golden era depends on what age you were when you started watching. Expand That's a good point. I have fond memories of the Liam/Joey/Casey/Steph years (admittedly not seen them since though), as that was the era I first started watching. And the Nash years of 1998-2000, because I was a little older and understood more of what was going on. 1997-2000 are still some of my favourite years of the show (having seen most of 1988-mid 2005 and 2013-mid 2016), but I know those periods aren't as highly regarded by some. Edited January 23 by adam436 Quote
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