Storylines that didn't age well

[adam436]

Did she perhaps stay long that she had become synonymous with Bobby? We hadn't really had long-running soaps in Australia at that point, so Bobby's stint would have been considered long-running by Australian standards in that time. We had dramas A Country Practice as a drama that ran for 10+ years, but other successful soaps such as Sons and Daughters, The Sullivans, The Young Doctors tended to last about 6-7 years. 

Weirdly, pretty much all of the younger original cast didn't really stay in the industry after leaving H&A. Justine Clarke has become a household name, and Alex Papps has had a long run on Play School, but otherwise all the other original younger cast appear to have left the industry entirely. Many have obviously returned for brief stints and Adam Willits for a regular stint, but none of them have have stayed in the industry in the same way that many of the Neighbours cohort of the same era have. 

[Ebony Gherkin]

Not so much a storyline, but the scene in Episode 1725 when Chloe’s Dad calls Jack a ‘w**’ was a real sit-up moment.

#differenttimes

Edited October 3, 2024 by Ebony Gherkin

[CaptainHulk]

16 hours ago, Ebony Gherkin said:

Not so much a storyline, but the scene in Episode 1725 when Chloe’s Dad calls Jack a ‘w**’ was a real sit-up moment.

#differenttimes

That was hacked out by ITV.

[Old H&A Fan]

What happened to my post that was "pending approval"? All I said was, the word "wog" wasn't always taken to be offensive, neither now nor then. Was that in itself offensive? (admin/moderator please feel free to PM me to explain)

When you say the the word "wog" was "hacked out" by ITV, was it bleeped, silenced, or the second it was said cut out resulting in a jump cut?

[atrus]

As I understand it, the word has a substantially different history and usage in the UK than it does in Australia. Even in the 90s it wasn't really acceptable at all on British TV.

[nenehcherry2]

On 05/10/2024 at 17:51, Old H&A Fan said:

What happened to my post that was "pending approval"? All I said was, the word "wog" wasn't always taken to be offensive, neither now nor then. Was that in itself offensive? (admin/moderator please feel free to PM me to explain)

When you say the the word "wog" was "hacked out" by ITV, was it bleeped, silenced, or the second it was said cut out resulting in a jump cut?

As a person of colour myself, I don't think there's anything offensive with us acknowledging the fact that words weren't always taken to be offensive (nor in spelling the word out to make the point). Nor do I think that it's helpful to censor the use of such a word in that type of context (especially if the moderator likely hasn't been on the receiving end of words like "the w word" themselves, as I personally have). 

So said, I believe we should always balance such acknowledgements with showing an awareness of the fact that such words WERE also used by many in a prejorative manner; to objectively display some empathy towards those of us who have been on negative receiving ends of "wog". 

My view: you can't rewrite history nor should we cancel out what we didn't like about the past. Quite the opposite: we should showcase ALL history so that we can LEARN from the past (learn from what was "bad" and what was "good", whatever that means to the subjective beholder); the shock of seeing something like Max Richards speaking to Jack that way, to most folks at least, should shock us into never having to relive that inter-societal experience ever again. 

PS, for the record, w** was used to people of colour in the UK, especially South Asian people during the 70s and 80s. Rather a lot in fact. It's just that there were more frequently used slurs which are incredibly more offensive to Black British, British Asian and other ethnic minority folks. If you're British or Irish then you'll know exactly which words I'm referring to. And you'll also (respectfully) appreciate why I certainly won't be highlighting these terms for the non-UK&I folk on here. 

Edited October 7, 2024 by nenehcherry2

[cymbaline]

That's the first time I can remember racism being addressed in such an open fashion on H&A. They'd touched on it in the past with original Roo's Asian boyfriend and with Kevin, the Indigenous guy who lived with the Rosses for 5 minutes. Other than that, the few non-caucasian characters who passed through seemed to go unacknowledged. 

[CaptainHulk]

On 05/10/2024 at 17:51, Old H&A Fan said:

What happened to my post that was "pending approval"? All I said was, the word "wog" wasn't always taken to be offensive, neither now nor then. Was that in itself offensive? (admin/moderator please feel free to PM me to explain)

When you say the the word "wog" was "hacked out" by ITV, was it bleeped, silenced, or the second it was said cut out resulting in a jump cut?

Bottomline is it was cut. ITV had a chronic habit as the decade came to a Close (and for far far tamer).

Channel 5 were a bit more Liberal and the word was used as such concerning Alex Poulos in one drag race.

The only time I've seen dialogue muted is on some Coronation Street and Emmerdale repeats. As for bleeping nope.

 

[atrus]

Yeah, I don't remember the specific example but I don't recall language in H&A ever being bleeped or muted - usually the approach with imports (at least in the UK) has been to cut as little of the scene as necessary so that you lose the word, but probably also a couple more lines of dialogue so that it flows and that as little attention is drawn to the edit as possible. This is certainly the approach that was used by Channel 5 with Neighbours when words like 'bastard' and 'b******ks* were deployed, which seem to be more acceptable in Australia than they are pre-watershed here.

Edited October 8, 2024 by atrus

[hapitoby]

43 minutes ago, atrus said:

Yeah, I don't remember the specific example but I don't recall language in H&A ever being bleeped or muted - usually the approach with imports (at least in the UK) has been to cut as little of the scene as necessary so that you lose the word, but probably also a couple more lines of dialogue so that it flows and that as little attention is drawn to the edit as possible. This is certainly the approach that was used by Channel 5 with Neighbours when words like 'bastard' and 'b******ks* were deployed, which seem to be more acceptable in Australia than they are pre-watershed here.

The only example I've aware of in Home and Away is Ric referring to Duncan as a tosser. This was near the 4000th ep (or maybe that episode). Tosser was cut from the UK broadcast apparently. This is something I've seen a few times so not 100% sure if true. I'm pretty sure one of the places was on IMDb but I just had a look and can't find it. Maybe someone here can confirm if this is true.