Storylines that didn't age well

[nenehcherry2]

5 minutes ago, Bobby Forever Missed said:

The lack of people with mental or physical handicaps, though this could be applied to the 2023 show as well

COMPLETELY agree! And when you did get GUESTS (it was never perms) who were differently-abled or neurodiverse, the physical or intellectual handicap defined their whole storyline purpose and characterisation (Danny, Nico, Bill). Rather than them just being ordinary folk who also happened to be in that situation.

[Bobby Forever Missed]

1 minute ago, nenehcherry2 said:

COMPLETELY agree! And when you did get GUESTS (it was never perms) who were differently-abled or neurodiverse, the physical or intellectual handicap defined their whole storyline purpose and characterisation (Danny, Nico, Bill). Rather than them just being ordinary folk who also happened to be in that situation.

We never see Danny again either despite the fact he’s A Pippa’s brother and B Tom’s best friend, why didn’t he show up for Tom’s funeral?

[nenehcherry2]

Just now, Bobby Forever Missed said:

We never see Danny again either despite the fact he’s A Pippa’s brother and B Tom’s best friend, why didn’t he show up for Tom’s funeral?

Because he had already ticked the biased producers' quota for a decade?

[Bobby Forever Missed]

1 minute ago, nenehcherry2 said:

Because he had already ticked the biased producers' quota for a decade?

Yeah that figures, not seeing Nico again was actually somewhat realistic because Lynn had left and he wasn’t particularly close to the other characters 

also we’ve never had a same sex relationship on the show Joey and Charlie Buckton kissed in 2009 and there was a huge backlash, Joey was quickly cancelled because of it absolutely ridiculous 

4 minutes ago, Bobby Forever Missed said:

Yeah that figures, not seeing Nico again was actually somewhat realistic because Lynn had left and he wasn’t particularly close to the other characters 

also we’ve never had a same sex relationship on the show Joey and Charlie Buckton kissed in 2009 and there was a huge backlash, Joey was quickly cancelled because of it absolutely ridiculous 

@nenehcherry2

[cymbaline]

4 hours ago, Bobby Forever Missed said:

We never see Danny again either despite the fact he’s A Pippa’s brother and B Tom’s best friend, why didn’t he show up for Tom’s funeral?

They forgot he existed? Or he had got trapped in that mysterious spare bedroom in Pippa's house that was never seen again? It would've been great to see John Clayton back but by then he was on Police Rescue. 

 

[CaptainHulk]

It was mentioned that Ceils ended up in

On 10/06/2023 at 16:13, nenehcherry2 said:

As a person of colour myself (albeit not Aboriginal nor Australian), watching some 80s/90s episodes make me absolutely cringe.

Agree with all above so far. A real missed opportunity with Kevin imo. 

Things that bug me: 

- Celia moving to "Africa". Burkina Faso? Somalia? Chad? Egypt? No, plain old simple "Africa". The writers didn't even bother to reflect how geographically complex and culturally diverse Africa (a CONTINENT) truly is. Screams of an "it's all the same" post-decolonisation mentality. VERY indicative of unconscious biases and sheer ingorance that folk had at the time. Clearly 1990 scriptwriters weren't immune. And hadn't learned by the time of any of her 2000s returns (nope, she's still in plain old "Africa"). Yet, when Celia came back from "Europe", they made the effort to list some of the countries and cities she had visited. 

- Stephanie being Somali. On the same theme as the above. Fleur was a great actress and I loved Steph's characterisation / backstory. As well as just having a regular character of colour. I'm not personally of African heritage (mixed Indian/White here) but just seeing someone on my TV screen 2-3 times a week who looked different to the "default" Anglo Celtic was very welcomed. But... she didn't look Somali in any form (neither true ethnic Somali nor "Somali Bantu"). Not convincing. The surname Mbuti is a WEST AFRICAN surname (ie not Somali) and Somalia is virtually 100% Muslim in demographics. "Stephanie" probably doesn't even exist as a name in Somalia. Literally. My Somali friend at the time, growing up in the 90s, found it all embarrassing to watch. So the written backstory and the casting, again, screams of a "every sub-saharan African person looks the same and their surnames / cultures etc are all the same" mindset. I guarantee that they'd have gone to more effort to get these things right with a European character. What would have been less offensive, since I loved Fleur, was to just bring her in to represent an ethnic identity which Fleur could pull off with her own appearance (she is mixed Indian/Angolan/White). And give the character a surname / forename and nationality that reflected this (as well as Fleur's, ahem, Australian accent). 

Correct. Unconscious bias before there was a word for the concept.

No doubt, the far right pond life on social media would be calling that storyline "too woke" if it aired in 2023. 

 

The kind of Pond Life who'd say it online but would think twice about saying to someone's face IRL. Even *they* know the risks. That's why they hide behind screens.

[project90]

4 hours ago, CaptainHulk said:

It was mentioned that Ceils ended up in

 

 

Could you say the country not just give a flag

[CaptainHulk]

9 hours ago, project90 said:

Could you say the country not just give a flag

OK, then. Nigeria.

*Happy* now?

All signs pointed to it in 2000 when she made her first return.

[project90]

1 hour ago, CaptainHulk said:

OK, then. Nigeria.

*Happy* now?

Attitude a little unpleasant but yes I'm happy now thanks for clarifying. So rude of me being interested in the answer and not knowing what flags are.

[CaptainHulk]

1 hour ago, project90 said:

Attitude a little unpleasant but yes I'm happy now thanks for clarifying. So rude of me being interested in the answer and not knowing what flags are.

Sorry, Monday. Short fuse. 

But  yeah, she was out there. They probably wanted to give her quick exit without  elaborate  where exactly she was going and didn't confirm for a decade.

Edited June 12, 2023 by CaptainHulk