2024 Season - UK Episode Discussion

[pembie]

  On 04/02/2025 at 07:54, CaptainHulk said:

Some people get the idea in their head that  they can "fix" people.

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Yeah but to do that you need to at least be around haha 

[H&Alover]

I must have misremembered.  Plus I  I guess as she was living in NZ a trial in a small town back in Aus wouldn't make news not even national news.

I did notice the jury did find Perri not guilty of murder by reason of self defence.  Is that a verdict you can give in Aus, as here all juries are  permitted to do is find the  defendant guilty or not guilty. 

Perri didn't correct her when Kaia said 'oh you kept it' when she saw the box.   We don't know the  circumstances she was living under, she moved from NZ to Aus  either because of work or when she married Carl. She wouldn't have had any family around and not have known who she could trust to look after her and Perri should she flee from Carl, he would have soon tracked her down.   It did appear she had maybe hung around for a bit as she said she had seen Peri playing basketball. Carl did blatantly lie to Perri  about his mum then, maybe in his own twisted way he thought it was better saying she'd died rather than she'd left him? 

Theo would understand, but Dimitiri was hiding  behind the mask of respectability when he was abusing Theo and his mum. 

Eden did attempt to do the right thing but soon crumbled, still think it's  a rebound thing with her.  Does Eden know Cash is staying in town? I think she does like Tim as he did come across as a nice guy. It's put Levi in very tight spot, and I know he's no innocent  as he cheated on his wife with Mac who had been his patient.  It is a grey area as Eden isn't his patient/client  but her sister is so not breaking true ethical rules.  Remi too is caught up in it just as Abigail has forgiven him for leading Eden astray which is probably why he scuttled off.        Maybe be wrong but I see a definite spark between  Theo and Abbie/Abby, him revealing he's/he'd seen a counsellor helped  I think.  Who is she going to feel more betrayed by  when it comes out?   

Remi was very circumspect when asked where Bree was, just telling folk she was visiting family. 

 

 

 

[Red Ranger 1]

Well, I can understand Levi not being happy with Tim but I don't see how coward punching him was the best way to handle it.He got his point across a lot better when he switched to using words, noting that Eden was scared of Abigail finding out.Eden did the right thing putting a stop to things but Tim ditching Abigail as a client helped no-one, except maybe covering his back if the true comes out.It leaves Abby upset and at a disadvantage and it means she's got even more reason to turn on Eden when/if the truth comes out.

Rose seems to be struggling with how to handle Cash.I thought she was just being nice at first but it's got to the point where he thinks he deserves a rollicking and she can't give it to him.I guess she still thinks of him as someone senior...which is ironic, given that when he was her superior, she didn't have a problem being blunt with him when the situation called for it!

Theo and Perri did get to chat but Theo stayed nicely neutral.At least it's been enough to convince Perri not to close the door completely.I notice that neither Harper nor Kaia, who only appeared in the opening scene, were credited so presumably that was moved from the previous episode, although goodness only knows what the cliffhanger was meant to be.

[CaptainHulk]

  On 04/02/2025 at 15:27, H&Alover said:

I must have misremembered.  Plus I  I guess as she was living in NZ a trial in a small town back in Aus wouldn't make news not even national news.

I did notice the jury did find Perri not guilty of murder by reason of self defence.  Is that a verdict you can give in Aus, as here all juries are  permitted to do is find the  defendant guilty or not guilty. 

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Tbf. It's a Murder trial. 

[H&Alover]

I shouldn't judge all men the same but it is a  male thing to let their fists do the talking first, Levi never came across as  the violent type.   Maybe Levi felt somewhat guilty as the way Abigail  was  was partly down to him.  Oops that was bad timing when Tim was with Eden and Abigail and Levi turns up.   Tim did keep schtum about how he got his split lip.    Eden did do the right thing by finishing with Tim saying she couldn't see him, much as she wanted to,  while he was still seeing Abby but he got round that by 'dumping' her.  Pretty flimsy excuse that he has so many clients and she was the last one he took on. Oh the truth will come out, they can only keep it under wraps for so long and this is SB. 

Oh and Eden does know Cash is staying around. 

It must make Rose feel  awkward having  her 'ex' boss back as an officer who now works under her.   It was  a bit naughty of him to bunk off by going to see Tane about Perri. 

Yep - see Kirby agreed with  me Theo does fancy Abby, although he did try and deny it but very unconvincingly.  Is Abby teasing Theo or does she fancy Tim?  Theo gave Perri  good advice, but neither he or Tane can tell him what to do it is Perri's decision  in the end.   

Just we see Marilyn having  a heated debate with Alf Roo shows up. 

 

 

[Red Ranger 1]

I was impressed with Abigail here. When we got that first scene of Mackenzie and Mali talking about how better things are at home, I was expecting Mackenzie to walk into Abby being back to snapping at everyone and sulking, but instead she seems to be handling it maturely and putting on a brave face. Still, it's good that Mali broke down the barriers and convinced her to accept help, even with Tim stoking her abandonment issues. So, last episode we had Kirby deciding that Theo likes Abby, and this episode we have Mackenzie deciding that Mali likes her: I'm not sure anyone saw that love triangle coming!

Alf tearing strips off Marilyn should happen more often, if she was trying to do the right thing, but ironically it turns out she made the right call. Five minutes of Roo being back and Alf's already opening up. To be fair, Alf went from initial scare to complications to crisis to on the road to recovery so fast that there was no way Roo would have made it back in time even if they had called her.It was inevitable she was going to find out about Bree's screw-up eventually.

Rose continued to be on eggshells around Cash but I was pleased that he made the same point I did: She's never been afraid to bawl him out when she thinks he's doing things wrong before, so she just needs to stop being self-conscious and get on with it. Hopefully her finally calling him "Constable" is a step in the right direction.

[Foellfan]

I did really feel for Perri; can very much understand his hurt and anger, I think Kaia was doing okay until she mentioned sneaking to watch the basketball games; yes, we know he thought she was dead but I think he would've been desperate to at least know she was out there. I do see why Kaia was on a sticky wicket but also get him saying he went through hell and her being sorry and scared doesn't change tthat, whicch is true. Though, in another, I'll admit I was a bit incredulous myself in the sense of, she knew how evil Carl was so why would she leave Perri with him, as he would've taken it out on him anyways, abusers abuse regardless really. I think he needed Tane's life experience but also Theo's age relation to give him a chance to work out what he wants, just because she's his Mum doesn't give her emotional rights anymore, he's 18 but if he does want to know that's good too.

Eden shouldn't have gone after Tim and Tim should've kept it in the troos, he could lose a lot but so could Eden, him abandoning Abi was callous, knowing part of why she was there in the first place and the 'getting another therapist' isn't a quick fix really, trying to create the rapport takes a while. Whilist it is very much a pot/kettle moment, I did smile at Levi thumping Tim, finally he's starting to earn bro stripes.

Alf's kind of PTSD over Bree is understandable, it is a very confronting thing to realise someone you're meant to trust had complete control of you whilst they were out of control themselves, it is scary.

 

[H&Alover]

Abi did appear to be handling it well after her initial melt down with Levi and seemed very calm, maybe too calm.   But then Mali walks in and finds her in tears and she lets him comfort her.    She also listened to him when he offered her advice at Salt after she shut Levi down about finding a new counsellor. Levi should stop pushing her, she'll only dig her heels in, she will make the right decision in her time.    Maybe it's not Tim she fancies, but Mali, he was the first guy who was nice to her, wasn't bothered about her history, made her laugh, offered her  a job.   I don't think he sees her as a potential girlfriend  though.  Will it be surfboards at dawn with Theo and Mali if they both acknowledge their interest?  Tim did get Abi to open up in a pretty short time,  which isn't easy, he must have the right knack.   

Marilyn very wisely didn't reveal to Roo what had really happened to  Alf over the phone, just likely said he hadn't been well and she needed to come home.   It was Alf himself who told her he hadn't needed her when he was lying horizontal on a hospital bed and didn't now.   You're right no way could Roo have made it home in time  when he had his crash and maybe could have died even if Maz had ignored his orders not to call her.  He's being very philosophical about it, he acknowledged doctors do have bad days, they are only human after all. but Roo of course will demand answers.   We did see her  burst in on Remi and Bree.  Was that Remi's bike she was on the back off, as later it looked like he was welcoming her home?    Btw a nice little mention of Ryder and how he's doing.  had she been to her mental assessment, if so any good it would have done may be ruined now Roo is on her case. 

As Rose was explaining to Kirby it is difficult for her to discipline Cash when he used to be her boss and now the situation is reversed as he was , in effect, the elder statesman.  Cash seemed to be suffering selective amnesia, he did resign after his suspension as he didn't want to accept a demotion  and restricted duties.    He'd only just come back into the job where he was sent to Mangrove River, but then he lost Felicity.   Rose, blushingly admitted to Kirby she had  a crush on Cash when she first met him,  but of course it went nowhere as he was seeing her stepsister, am I allowed to say 'her' name, oh sod it Jasmine.    She nearly left town though because of the awkwardness about it. 

[c120701]

I find it really odd seeing characters like Remi at Summer Bay House, there was a time when almost everyone went there fairly frequently, but now it’s so disconcerting, almost like Remi had gone through a portal to a parallel universe. 

[Red Ranger 1]

At this point, I have to wonder what the show thinks it's doing with Bree.Whilst there can be no doubt that she's better than she was a few weeks ago, she still isn't taking any responsibility beyond genuine but inadequate apologies.Her hiding in the garden like a coward while Remi enables her by acting like her bodyguard and then going behind her back to play on Alf's sympathies in order to stop Roo taking the appropriate steps isn't solving anything.She's still running away from anything approaching responsibility or consequences.I was nodding in agreement with Roo throughout.Whilst the whole "she took leave rather than be suspended" thing still makes no sense when she was already suspended, the hospital do need to make sure that nothing like this happens again, and Bree claiming she's not ashamed of her diagnosis and then going out of her way to hide it from everyone, including colleagues and superiors who need to know what the problem is in order to help her manage it, with a selfish "it'd hurt my career" justification, really isn't showing her in a good light.

The problem with Dana is she just doesn't know when to stop, literally. John doesn't help himself by responding with quips and meaningless comments (although I did like him checking with Mackenzie that she doesn't think Dana's right), but Dana just charged in all guns blazing, saying things she might have meant in the heat of the moment but will probably regret later.

Well, despite Mackenzie tag teaming with Kirby on being obsessed with Abigail's love life, at least things with her and Mali seem to have been sorted painlessly.