Red Ranger 1 Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 I rolled my eyes at Rose telling Cash he did a good job today.As both Remi and Cash himself pointed out, he had one job and he was an epic failure at it.A lot of the blame has to lie with the idiotic judge who let a dangerous criminal loose (Does a mistrial even require that? Couldn't he be kept in custody while a retrial was arranged?) and the idiotic police who decided to just let him roam free, somehow with full access to a rifle, but if Cash had actually been with Stevie doing his job when he got the call instead of listening to Harper and Dana's whining, there might have been a chance to get her to safety in time.I'm not sure I'd have been willing to indulge Wickham as much as Cash did, but I suppose that's police officer training when dealing with a sicko with a gun. I did feel sorry for Nelson here.I guess Bree stepped up eventually but she still seems to be more interested in hanging around Remi in a way that's understandable but vaguely inappropriate.At least he had Alf on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foellfan Posted July 9 Report Share Posted July 9 RR1, you're right about Holly but that said, with the other two I mentioned the threatening behaviour continued for another two years before things were changed. I did feel for Nelson, the stark realisation of it being caught on film, it's weird the things you think about but shock does that. Sidney's insane babbling was in it's own way chilling.Cash isn't necasarilly at fault, the police screwed up there by not informing the firm. It might sound crazy, it can be things as simple as tweets and such, hence why juries are told not to use it/tv if they are in big trials. We all knew it would either be Cash or Bree Remi went for, he's lashing out I think more because of the shock and violence at Stevie's death rather than any deep feeling as such. All hail Alf, he's the man for a crisis! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHulk Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 17 hours ago, Foellfan said: RR1, you're right about Holly but that said, with the other two I mentioned the threatening behaviour continued for another two years before things were changed. I did feel for Nelson, the stark realisation of it being caught on film, it's weird the things you think about but shock does that. Sidney's insane babbling was in it's own way chilling.Cash isn't necasarilly at fault, the police screwed up there by not informing the firm. It might sound crazy, it can be things as simple as tweets and such, hence why juries are told not to use it/tv if they are in big trials. We all knew it would either be Cash or Bree Remi went for, he's lashing out I think more because of the shock and violence at Stevie's death rather than any deep feeling as such. All hail Alf, he's the man for a crisis! When The straw hat goes on and the SES Hi-Vis comes out he's not f... esssing around! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H&Alover Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 I'm with Medea and Captain Hulk on this- it wasn't down to Cash not doing his job. It was the police or whoever was in charge of letting Sidney go without informing Cash's bosses earlier when he was let go. Stevie wasn't in danger anymore as the guy threatening her was inside or so everyone thought. He was the only danger. Sidney must have one hell of a lawyer to persuade the cops/the judge whoever that he was safe to be let out on bail. Indeed a trial can be classed as a mistrial if the jury hears/reads something that could prejudice their verdict, tough enough in the 'old days' but now with the net and social media even harder to avoid what is going on. Suppose for a moment it was you on trial for whatever reason, you're innocent of course, and the jury got to hear something detrimental which wasn't true and it swayed their verdict and you got sent down. With Tracy in Corrie the Crime Scene Examiner is supposed to to be an Expert Witness and it wasn't just her case that had to be re-examined, any case they would have been involved in. That happens in real life. Rose did well relaying the bad news about Stevie asking Alf and Nelson to keep it quite and Nelson said he'd let her family know. I get everyone, even the cops were panicking about Sidney running about but actually he wasn't after anyone else, Stevie was his only target, that is what I gathered from what he was saying to Cash. OK he knew it was Cash's place and that Stevie had stayed there but once again how did he know. Did he Google Earth it? He really wanted her dead didn't he? Of course this time round the police putting a media block on everything worked too well this time round as Sidney couldn't find any news about Stevie dying, he didn't believe Cash when he kept telling him it was so. Police training definitely coming in there with Cash keeping Sidney as calm as he could. Then of course Eden walks in after the police deciding Sidney must have gone so everyone can go home with police escort and walks into Cash being 'held' hostage. Cash did mange to overpower him although the urge to really hurt him must have been strong. Shows how unhinged Sidney is as he just went calm when it was confirmed Stevie was dead, he was living the movie as he wanted it to end. Bree was torn between two lovers - sorry couldn't resist - one ex and one new as to who to comfort first. Nelson may have had a tough time keeping Stevie under control but having someone shot in front of you when things had been going so well, having a laugh, then bang. Now he's got the producers going on at him, wanting to know no doubt what about the money they've put into this film, how can they recoup it? Remi, she had to talk to, yes they are not together anymore but she still cares/loves him and knows him too well to believe the "I'm fine" lie. Remi, knows deep down it wasn't Cash's fault, he is just lashing out, he can't get to Sidney so Cash is the one that's getting it in the neck. Those floral tributes being laid for Stevie were lovely, Alf's seen a few of those in his time. Bit of a frosty moment with Mac, Xander and Eden in Salt, Mac asking how it was at the hospital and Eden totally ignoring her, she could have put aside what was going on with Levi and her for one moment. Absolutely nothing to smile about really but Alf asking Nelson where Troy was, Nelson replying he's gone to lie down to rest and Alf saying he was giving everyone a rest by doing that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ranger 1 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 Was there any reason why Dana didn't tell John she had to be in court, instead of just pulling out of her shift with no explanation?Other than so he could keep pushing until she snapped? Bree was behaving really inappropriately here, appointing herself Remi's go-to person and then kissing him.Hey, he's never even brought up her promise that Stevie would be all right and she still has to keep pushing her luck! Theo was a much better choice. The Bay's pretty much in shock, and seems to have replaced the film crew with a combination of genuinely distraught fans and tasteless ghouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foellfan Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 Tasteless ghouls, perfectly put; every time you get anything like that they appear, it's true. Don't blame Alf being piqued. Theo and Justin feeling weird about the surfing, I get that too not just for that weirdness of normality continuing but feeling out of place with your place if you like. It's familiar yet equally unfamiliar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHulk Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Red Ranger 1 said: Was there any reason why Dana didn't tell John she had to be in court, instead of just pulling out of her shift with no explanation?Other than so he could keep pushing until she snapped? Bree was behaving really inappropriately here, appointing herself Remi's go-to person and then kissing him.Hey, he's never even brought up her promise that Stevie would be all right and she still has to keep pushing her luck! Theo was a much better choice. The Bay's pretty much in shock, and seems to have replaced the film crew with a combination of genuinely distraught fans and tasteless ghouls. Think the writers tried to make John look like an arse, I guess. On 08/07/2024 at 14:34, Medea Fleecestealer said: Don't ya just love it when people in H&A ignore basic safety. Felicity: sod it I'm going to look for Tane even if there is a shooter on the loose. She's not very bright, is she? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan F Posted July 11 Author Report Share Posted July 11 On 09/07/2024 at 19:09, CaptainHulk said: They paroled Tracy Barlow/McDonald/whatever she calls herself Maybe she's restyled herself in Spain as WAG 'Tracy O'... 7 hours ago, Red Ranger 1 said: Was there any reason why Dana didn't tell John she had to be in court, instead of just pulling out of her shift with no explanation?Other than so he could keep pushing until she snapped? It did seem awkwardly contrived to do just that - which was a bit of a shame given their usual camaraderie. I would presume that Sidney has since confessed to killing Crystal as well - considering he was talking about Stevie being the last on his list, and he was finishing the job since "no-one was supposed to survive in the movie". Odds on there being any follow-up on that though...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pembie Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 I haven’t been sleeping at night really because I have a bad foot But I would like to say thank you to that episode I think I actually fell asleep woke up in time for England match the one year I don’t make thread to talk at the games they probably might win and watched episode again afterwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ranger 1 Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 4 hours ago, Dan F said: I would presume that Sidney has since confessed to killing Crystal as well - considering he was talking about Stevie being the last on his list, and he was finishing the job since "no-one was supposed to survive in the movie". Odds on there being any follow-up on that though...? Hmm. Possibly, but I kind of assumed Crystal's character died in the movie.(She doesn't look in a good way in the bits we've seen.)Even Stevie seemed to stop insisting it was murder after the coroner's verdict came back, although that would make it a startling coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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